iPig's Adventures

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Jaycey
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Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:16 am


Yeah, iastate is right unfortunately. I have a friend who "rescued" a dog from a breeder. She paid them £350 and came away with a puppy. That's not rescuing, that's buying a dog from a breeder!

One of my guinea pigs is a rescue bought through a pet shop. I'd seen him a few times on my visits and queried them. He was actually from an adoption centre that was overcrowded so the pet shop took him in to try to rehome him. He was available for an optional adoption charge, so I could have taken him for free. After finding out details of the adoption centre I decided to pay for him as the centre received the donation, not the pet store. To me, that was a rescue.

I've since seen the petshop use this 'adoption area' to sell off their unwanted pets, who have been there for a little while. I remember asking about one and they said he was in there because they'd had him for a few months and hadn't sold. They did want a fee for him, £10, which is cheaper than the rest of the guinea pigs, but wasn't optional. That's not rescuing, that's buying from a petshop.

bpatters
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Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:56 am


Pigs1994, I agree that that pig needed a home. But so will the next one, and the next one, and the next one that come from pet stores supplied by breeders. Are you going to buy them all? Because what your purchase does is open up another slot to be filled by a breeder-supplied pig.

If you search the forums here and at Guinea Pig Cages, you can find some truly dreadful pictures of the way breeding guinea pigs are kept and treated, and how they're shipped to the pet stores. All you've done is perpetuate that kind of animal abuse.

I'm sure there were pigs available from rescues and shelters near you when you got your pig. They also needed homes, but taking one of those pigs would not have provided a breeder and a pet shop an opportunity to get rid of, and make money from, a guinea pig.

Some states have had success in stopping pet stores from selling puppies and kittens because of the horrendous conditions they're bred and kept in. I can only hope that one day that will happen for all animals.

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onetwo

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:07 am


TY Bpatters. Giving a pet store money for animals OR supplies is purpetuating the abuse. Find a store that does not sell live animals from breeders to buy supplies from. That way you won't have to look at the poor critters that need homes.

They are all animals and they do need homes but giving them money and providing a demand for their "merchandise" is funding the issue. Its a bad short term solution. We could all go out and buy up all the guinea pigs at every local pet store but them the breeders would breed more and more mommies and babies will die because they don't care about proper diet, or genetics or sanitation... The only thing they care about is profits. This is why real rescues are non profits because its about care of the animals...

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clairey

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:18 am


Yup, I'd call this guy a definite rescue.

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LandosMomma

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:23 pm


I do not think it is right to call it 'rescue', he is getting care and that they have had him there since Janurary, well that would indicate that they are not going to just kill him. I think only you can decide what is right, but the next time you go in and see the boars that replaced him, or hear fo the new boar in the back, what will you do then?

I don't want to sound crass or mean at all. I just want you to really, really think about this. You are mourning and need to give yourself some time to heal. I support whatever choice you make. I just hope you can understand why we feel the need to be honest with you.

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dreamswept

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:24 pm


If you haven't taken him yet, I'd second/third/gazillion any suggestions to do so. I normally wouldn't buy from a place like Petsmart or PetCo myself, but I found myself in a similar spot in late June. I don't patronize PetCo but I had brought a person I work with in there before lunch to look around and kill some time. Saw they had a free pig. I told them I'd take him and got him out of there without giving them a cent.

I rescued him, cases like this are definitely vital because pet stores don't care what happens even to animals they sell, they care even less about the ones they can dump off.

Go get that pig if you haven't got him. My little Zorro has a great life now as best as I can do for him (course it could be even better, but it could be worse too, he could belong to a little kid who feeds him crap hay or no hay, pellets with dried stuff and crap, and keeps him in a teeny cage forever)

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Feylin

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:24 pm


This guy is not out front in a tank, right? As in, he's not a pet for sale. They're not ever going to sell him...they've already put another pig in his spot in the tanks out front. You can have him for $0.

If that's all true, then I say yes get him.

rpaws

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:04 pm


I'd take him and consider him a rescue. The store has pumped $600 into his care. Giving him away for free or damaged for $.01 is not going to make them any profit.

Unfortunately, he has already been replaced by another guinea pig in the tank.

Pigs1994,
Yes rescues normally charge a fee for an animal. It helps to defray the costs of housing/feeding/medical care of the animal. In no way does the rescue earn money off the adoption fee. Good rescues are always in the red.

There is another reason to charge an adoption fee. To make sure the person is really interested in the pet. It seems that people value something for which they pay. It also means the person is serious about adopting. With the case of guinea pigs, it also ensures they won't be snake food.

WICharlie

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:29 pm


I would consider this a rescue.

Our rescue took in a pig under similar circumstances. Petco had a young male that had a horrible URI. They did take it to the vet and treated it for several months. I was actually contacted through the vet as he was the one I also used for my pigs. I was told that the pig was healthy but that he had noisy breathing and couldn't be sold like that.

Unfortunately, poor Moby came to me with much more than "noisy breathing." This poor pig was working so hard to breath that he didn't have any energy for anything else. His breathing was horribly labored. I had him for 3 days and I have never had a pig with such a will to live. I cried to watch his suffering. I loved that pig. In the end, I put him down to end his suffering. What made me mad was that the petstore people should have found compassion for this pig and put him down themselves. "Noisy breathing" my butt!

Still... they at least sought medical care for him. That's more than most petshops will do.

hcornetto

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:55 pm


I'm in a similar situation. I visited a Petco so that my daughter could hold a guinea pig to check for allergies before we adopted our three boys. When we were in there, there was a huge guinea pig being kept in a cage alone. I felt so bad for him, he wasn't cute and he wasn't small anymore and I figured that he would have a hard time finding a home.

I visited the Petco once again looking for some advantage to treat my boys with. The large pig was still there, but this time he was a "manager's special" and on sale. He was no longer placed with the other pigs - his spot having been taken by a fresh batch of pups. I told the person (who I thought to be a clerk) that I felt bad for the pig, and he asked me if I had any pigs. I told him that I did and he said that he was the store manager, and that for me, the pig would be free with any purchase. I guess he saw how sad I was about the pigs plight, or maybe he was just desperate to be rid of it.

I know some people would disagree with what I did, but I figured that I had to buy something anyway, so I might as well take the pig with me. God forbid no one took him and he got given away as snake food, or brought into the dreaded back room. At least the petstore didn't profit from the sale of the pig, and on the receipt he was marked as "discount - damaged".

I think in the long run, you have to decide for yourself if that pig deserves to be taken. It didn't ask to be bred and placed in a petstore, its circumstances were just unfortunate. As for me, I took the pig, but I won't go back into a petstore that sells pets if I can help it, because I can't just keep taking in every pig that I come across who I have sympathy for.

8ball

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:22 pm


He's a rescue - take him home. I'm sure he'll be overjoyed to be with you.

If I could afford the money and time to care for another pig I wouldn't think twice about rescuing him or her, pet shop or not. I paid a woman £80 for my twin boys after finding out that she kept them out in a run on the wet grass all day in winter while she was at work. Their poor little feet were so cold when I collected them.

SkittleandTwix
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Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:12 pm


I would take him if he is free and the petstore makes no money on him. I would consider it a rescue.

I took two gerbils our PetCo had up for adoption for free because I was afraid they otherwise would become snake food.

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Mapleowl18
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Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:54 pm


I'd say, no cash or a .01 fee is a rescue.

Otherwise its buying but no cash= no profit for the big chain store, which is the goal.

Cinnabuns Legacy

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:40 pm


If they'll give him to you for free and you can afford all the ongoing care I also say take him. I'm amazed that even a Petsmart would spend that much money on care though.

Kermie, that is so sad.

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Mr Demus 625
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Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:09 pm


We stopped in to meet the little guy tonight. Ashley wasn't there but another girl who has helped us before was and she brought iPig as they call him out to meet us. We spoke of possibly being interested in adopting him and went over the terms of what that actually meant. He would be signed over to us should we take him, not damaged out. From what we've gathered he's in the largest pet store cage they carry and he's handled by them all the time. I tend to believe this as true because he was so sweet, well behaved, loved being held and just awesome personality. On the positive side he's well adjusted and appears to be a mascot of sorts for them. He is also cared for by our vet so I'm going to talk to her on Thursday and get her opinion on him, his care and her thoughts on us even taking him as I'd really like her insight.

I appreciate the the feedback, and LandosMomma is very right in that we do need time to grieve and figure out what is going on. Should we adopt iPig he is not being brought in our home until everyone gets a clean bill of health which as of now they all have, with the exception of Mephster who is my priority. Who knows we may not end up with him, but we did express interest and told her to let us know when they need to have him out.

So I present iPig, she let me sneak a picture of him! He was so mellow and loved the attention. His eye actually didn't look bad at all, it appears to be constantly draining which I would go over with the vet as he's on meds now.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:55 pm


My goodness, he's adorable. Please let us know how things turn out.

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Mr Demus 625
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Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:59 pm


He was so precious too, bit on the beefy side so he's well fed. Probably crap food but who knows. I'm going to call tomorrow and see if they'll let me bring in some Oxbow for him. Doubtful but we shall see.

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LandosMomma

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:12 pm


Oh he is a heart breaker, I think once you talk to your vet, you will know what to do, when you are ready.

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LisasHerd

Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:35 pm


Is he a PEW? He would be here in a second!! Good luck with your decision.

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Mr Demus 625
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Post   » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:46 pm


He seems more lilac/PEW. Like he's got some really gorgeous lilac coloring

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