Moving Right Along: Snickerspants Part 6

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serelixyue

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:37 pm


Friend saw your ultrasound picture and he was like "wow, guinea pig friends post their own human baby pregnancy ultrasounds too?" and I explained to him that to Alden, her pigs are her babies :P

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clairey

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:38 pm


Hmm, interesting question about the heat pad. I did a human pregnancy Google since we're all mammals and while humans using hot water bottles is ok, anything that might raise the core temp - like a hot bath - is not.

I know my pigs definitely get a bit hot and bothered after lying on the pad so I think it's more to the hot bath end of the scale.

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AldenM1
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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:56 pm


But if she were hot and bothered, she'd get off it, right? the question is the period in which it feels good to Cici but might be harmful to the mini-peegs.

It's never colder than 65 in their room, so I didn't think it was a big deal. But at STF's urging I gave Albert one today and all day on the pigcam I've been watching Team Snowflake plaster themselves all over it (see below). So now I feel bad for Team Top Pig.

Of course, with the spring we've been having, it'll be 94 degrees out by tomorrow morning, so this conversation will be moot.

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bpatters
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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:12 pm


One of the possible side effects of overheating during certain stages of pregnancy is feet that are turned in (contracture of tendons and/or muscles). Since it's likely to warm up by tomorrow, I think I'd just drape some fleece over that hidey to hold in some heat, and wait on the weather to improve.

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AldenM1
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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:15 pm


Ewww. Okay, that's that then!

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clairey

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:17 pm


Hmm, you'd think she'd get off. Stephen is so into the warmth that he's prone to lying on the pad too long. He gave me quite the scare lying sprawled on his side in the middle of the cage looking like he'd had some sort of episode. When I picked him up to check, he was just far too hot. Now I triple wrap it in fleece so less heat gets through.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:33 pm


Warming the room might be safer. If they have some dry fleece to lay on, that is very very warm and safe too.

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:10 pm


Love the picture of Team Snowflake enjoying their warm cuddle cups.

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AldenM1
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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:37 pm


It is cute. Here are other cute pictures (3 stolen from STF's rescue page).

Dad? or litter-mate?
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Little brother #1
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Little brother #2
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And, of course, Cici herself, enjoying some alfalfa pellets.
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clairey

Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:46 pm


The boys are all gorgeous too. I like the middle one best. Something about the sweep of his unicorn horn.

I know a lot of it will be hair but Cici's head already looks really small!

All still harmonious with her new partner in crime? How's her skittishness coming along? She looks happy enough to eat out of the cage which is quite something for a newbie.

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AldenM1
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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:53 pm


She IS small! She has a big ol' gut, which may or may not be because of the babies, but her head and her front half and her little feet are just tiny little things. She's got to be at least old enough for her mother to have had a second litter after her, but it may not be much more than that.

Things appear to be going well on Team Top Pig. This morning I handed Snickers his carrot through the bars as I always do and then realized I was going to have to open the cage to hand one to Cici because she hadn't run right up to the bars like everybody else. In the time it took me to have that thought and actually do the action, she had already chased him down. He had his face in the corner and was eating faster than usual and making what can only be called a whining noise, which stopped as soon as I gave Cici her own carrot.

And yeah, she's weird on the holding/cuddles/skittishness too. She doesn't like being caught and is kind of constantly ready to bolt, which is why I thought maybe the tub would be better than just holding her. She jumps a little when I move too quickly. But she was happy to eat for about 10 minutes, including the entire carrot -- and after years with me Ouiser was still not thrilled about eating out in the open. And she let me gently give her a nose rub while she ate, too, without appearing petrified. I think once she gets used to us she might actually not be that skittish at all.

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GP_mum
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Post   » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:51 pm


CiCi's brothers are both gorgeous and looks like she has the least crazy fur in the family. She sounds like my girl - hates getting caught but once out on my lap, will sit and enjoy her vegetables. I've found taking her out daily is helping and she's less tense when I go to get her out.

Continued best wishes for an uneventful pregnancy. I can only imagine Cici's babies will be adorable, just looking at the family photos.

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AldenM1
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Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:22 am


We ate some kale and parsley tonight in solo-time. Also alfalfa pellets. I've been giving them to her when I have her out, since she seems willing to eat, but she ALSO has access to the bowl of timothy pellets when she's in with Snick. That's okay, right? It's that alfalfa is better and not that timothy is bad?

bpatters
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Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:01 am


Timothy is fine. All pigs need a long strand grass hay, and alfalfa isn't one -- it's a legume, like peas. What alfalfa does is give you an easy way to supply the calcium that young and pregnant/nursing sows need. But if you're feeding kale and parsley, she surely doesn't need alfalfa hay. And, IMO, she doesn't need both kale/parsley AND alfalfa pellets -- one or the other should suffice.

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AldenM1
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Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:52 am


I've been giving her a "laptime" of about half an hour actually in my little transport tub during which she has access to all of the above and can choose. Last night it was mostly kale; the night before it was mostly pellets. I figure 30 minutes of access to calcium-rich stuff is what I'm giving her and not so much the items themselves, if that makes sense.

"Om nom kale!"
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She "spooked" a couple of times last night when I moved a bit too fast. Each time that happened Snickers, who was about 6 feet away but obviously listening carefully, freaked out and wheeked like crazy. He apparently thinks I might be fattening up his new friend for stew-making and wanted to beg me to reconsider.

On the other hand, she also let me give her a fairly serious shoulder-rub. I didn't even notice I was doing it; I was stroking her in a more "I'm just barely touching you and this is okay" way and she was eating, and then I shifted into the behind-the-ear-in-that-shoulder-area massage I usually give Snickers. I'm pretty sure she liked it, because by the time I realized I was rubbing her harder than I'd meant she was doing what I think was a happy chirp and had stretched out in Snicker's same "aaahhhh" position. So, note to self.

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clairey

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:38 pm


Oh, he's protecting her already! He's going to be such a good nanny-boar.

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MildredM
The-Fairy-in-my-Heart

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:40 pm


Wow! Piggy-tamer extradordinaire, AldenM1! Can we send our new girls, they are as jumpy as heck - calming down a bit each day, a long way to go yet though.

I love CiCi's swooshy fur!

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snowflakey
E's Moriarity

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:32 pm


What a nice story. It's a great way to get her loving people and loving new delicious foods.

CavyHeart

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:59 pm


Oh! Can you bundle up Little Brother Number Two and send him out to southern Oregon, please? (Or one of CiCi's mini-peegs if there's a Silkie boy.) :-) I hope that everything goes well, and I'm glad to hear that CiCi is warming up to you a little bit already! She's such a lucky girl.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:35 pm


I think the top pic is daddy pig. The middle is likely a litter mate and I think the bottom guy is from the second litter, in which the mama passed away. :(. We don't know who the culprit is that got Cici loaded with parasites. There was also a fourth boy that Melly found a home for in Charleston. And there is another female that is still on Charleston on pregnancy watch.

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