1984 and Alternative Facts

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:08 am


Totally worth a read:

Welcome to dystopia – George Orwell experts on Donald Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/25/george ... -conway-1984

Jean Seaton quotes Orwell, "Science, in the old sense, had almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for science.”

Tim Crook suggests reading Orwell's "Politics and the English Language".

http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/

You can find 1984 here:
https://archive.org/details/Orwell1984preywo

The pdf:
https://ia801809.us.archive.org/32/items/Orwell1984preywo/orwell1984preywo.pdf

A series of quotes from 1984 on GoodReads:
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/153313-nineteen-eighty-four

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Post   » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:07 pm


Other books to read on the subject:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/26/1984-dystopias-reflect-trumps-us-orwell

I would add "The Plot Against America" by Phillip Roth
"It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis (I haven't red this one).
"Fahrenheit 451" by Ray Bradbury.


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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:12 pm


There was a bitter take-down of the NYTimes on Kos today. Short. Sharp comments. Ignoring what they knew about Trump/Russia to focus on Hillary's emails.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/27/1626301/-New-York- ... -That-Wasn-t

rpaws

Post   » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:45 pm


"It Can't Happen Here" by Lewis is good.

Would add:
"Anthem" by Ayn Rand
"The Devil's Advocate" by Taylor Caldwell

piggypie

Post   » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:10 pm


How about a Handmaiden's Tale by Margaret Atwood?

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:39 pm


Piggypie, I finished The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood yesterday. Parts of it are scary!

bpatters
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Post   » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:51 pm


I need to re-read that.

Women protested in the Texas Senate dressed as women from The Handmaid's Tale. Texas has some awful bills that the Senate will undoubtedly pass, but there's some hope the the House has better sense. One would allow a doctor who determined that a fetus had a defect to not inform the mother if the doctor suspected that the mother might choose abortion. It would also prevent the doctor from being sued if the child was born with a disability.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:35 pm


I read about that.

If all our elected representatives/senators/everyone were female, we wouldn't be seeing this nonsense.

bpatters
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Post   » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:41 pm


Well, Lynx, I'm not so sure that's true. There are Kelly Ann Conways and Betsy Devoses in this world.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:09 pm


But the sensible ones outnumber them!

GPIG

Post   » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:07 am


Now now...

Ayn Rand...I loved reading the Fountainhead and couldn't wait to read another of her books. I then read Atlas Shrugged and thought in another place she might have been be a Joseph Goebbels. John Galt might have had a funny little mustache with a badly parted haircut.

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Post   » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:16 am


I'm adding a link to one of the series of articles about trump and his lying ways. I have to go back and read it later (do not have time right now). Near the top you will see links to the consecutive articles they are running on this. The link below is not the first one.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-ed-why-trump-lies/

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:03 pm


Lynx, that article you linked to is part of a series about the administration. All of the articles are well worth a read.

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For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:16 pm


Hannah Arendt
“In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.”

― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism c. 1951

Also wrote "Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report in the Banality of Evil" as in Nazi leader Adolf Eichmann

Found this in a tweet here:

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:25 pm


On Chris Hayes twitter account, someone reposted this:
McConnell confirms: New health care bill Thursday, CBO score early next week and vote on motion to proceed mid next week.
Will he never stop?

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:41 pm


I've heard he's an amazing power broker. Time for a big failure.

Another good & very active twitter account is Kyle Griffin:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:55 pm


Sometimes I wonder if McConnell has dirt on people to force them into votes.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:03 pm


Interesting possibility. As an aside, he's called "The Turtle".

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