Hind end/back injury

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:26 am


Trevor came home last night and is doing relatively good this morning. He's eating hay and lettuce, but not drinking on his own that I've seen. He's pooping and urinating, but seems to be having pain upon urination still. Is this normal after this kind of surgery?

The vet was gone by the time I got there last night so I was unable to ask him any questions. They left one woman there, a receptionist, and no notes for her. It was a bit disappointing. I'll be calling first thing this morning with my list of questions.

Thanks for everyone's help and support!

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:26 am


Is he on pain medication? Don't know how normal it is. Just weigh him and make sure it doesn't interfere with his appetite. Good luck.

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salana
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Post   » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:04 am


I would think the incision in his bladder would hurt, if nothing else. He also might still be sore from the stones and/or he might have a UTI as well.

GP Lover
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Post   » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:48 am


I would think the pain is normal and he should be given something for it.
If there's blood in his urine and it continues for more than a day I'd be concerned. That happened to a friends pig and it turned out he had a damaged urethra. Surgery to repair it did not have a good outcome.

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:11 am


Because he was given the shot of depomedrol last Monday and it's supposed to stay in his system for 4 weeks, the only pain med I would be able to give him would be Valium. I'm nervous about doing this because of the sedative effects and possible GIT side effects. The vet doesn't know what else to give him either, unfortunately.

GP Lover
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Post   » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:57 am


Well, perhaps he just needs time to heal. After all, he just had the surgery. Hopefully he'll continue to eat on his own. I wouldn't worry about the not drinking unless it continues. You could syringe him some water and see if he'll take it.

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:35 am


There is no more blood in Trevor's urine. There was no blood at all in his cage when I got home yesterday afternoon and none through the night so that's encouraging. He's still crying about every other time he urinates, but apparently that's normal and will continue until he heals a bit more.

He is becoming extremely active! He keeps trying to run across my bed where before he would just sit there. It's very cute! He is still dragging his feet for the most part, but has moments where he can pull them up and jump a bit. I'm very excited about this.

His incision looks great and he's not fiddling with anything. He started eating pellets this morning too. Still eating hay and a bit of veg, although not drinking as much as I would like. I'm also still supplementing with Critical Care and syringing water.

I'm concerned with giving him sub qs. He is so jumpy and moves so quickly, I'm having a very difficult time. I have stabbed myself twice and go through two needles each session because I try to poke him so many times I'm worried about the needles going dull.

Added to the mix is my fear that I'm going to really hurt his back if I hold him too hard. He flails about like a bucking bronco! If I hold his head, his back end flails about and I'm so scared of him injuring himself further.

Any tips on how to hold him down with only two hands? I've tried wrapping him but I'm not having much luck.

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snowflakey
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Post   » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:54 am


I have no tips but wanted to say congrats on Trevor so far. Hope he continues to heal well.

GP Lover
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Post   » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:26 am


I say can the subq's if the vet agrees it's okay. Why put him through the stress if it isn't necessary.

pinta

Post   » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:37 am


If he's prone to stones, subcues could help prevent another surgery.

I use my wrist to hold the pig against my abdomen and with the same hand grab some skin which I pull up. Sometimes they keep turning to one direction. If that happens I let them face whichever way they want and put the needle in towards the back end. It's easier to hold the pig towards you by using your wrist.

I stick the needle in the flap of skin with the beveled surface facing up. Sometimes I really have to push before it goes in while securing the pig with my other hand.

It just takes practise.

You need to rotate the injection sites. I do right flank, right shoulder, left shoulder, left flank. There is no reason to aim directly at the back.

pinta

Post   » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:38 am


oh and needles can be used 3 times (sterilizing in between). So don't worry about jabbing twice.

GP Lover
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Post   » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:04 pm


How is Trevor doing?

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:59 am


Trevor is doing great! He's eating a lot more, has no blood in his urine and is not crying as much when he pees. Actually I haven't heard any crying in at least the last 24 hours. Yay! I did freak out a bit the one morning when I checked on him and all his pee spots were orange. Then I remembered I had mixed his pellet mash with carrot baby food. Ha!

My dad came down on Friday evening and we fitted Trevor with his cart. I'm not putting him in it regularly yet as he's still healing from his surgery. I have had pictures taken though so hopefully I can post them later today or tomorrow when they get emailed to me.

When he's in the cart he moves both his back feet! :) He runs around like a crazy pig and can do fast turns and even back up. The cart is a little ghetto as we found it difficult to find a lot of the materials listed in the Roxy Roller thread. But it's functional and that's what's most important I think.

I'm finding it difficult to find any skin to pinch for the sub cues on his flanks. He's still quite thin and there's not much there to work with. I'm trying to rotate as best I can with the areas I can more easily work with on his back and sides a bit.

My greatest moment with Trevor this weekend came when I heard him really wheeking for the first time. :) He heard the other pigs getting excited about veggie time and demanded some for himself. It was a little overwhelming. He's such a wonderful little guy!

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:11 am


It is possible a dye is added to carrot baby food.
Encouraging news. He sounds like a really cool little pig.

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snowflakey
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Post   » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:32 pm


Hooray Trevor!! What good news.

pinta

Post   » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:04 pm


Roxy lit up when she first tried her cart outside. She was so happy not to be dragging her feet. Definitely a threat to the other pigs. She wiped out Apatche who didn't get out of her way fast enough.

She now has full use of her legs and doesn't need it anymore. The muscles she built up in the shoulder area from using the cart are still there making her look and feel a little bit like a weightlifter.

Looking forward to seeing the pics.

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:10 am


Here are some pictures of Trevor in his ghetto cart.

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He walked toward the lettuce:

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In the process of walking:

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A little unsteady on the blanket (the foam part got stuck on the ridges in the blanket, will have to cover it with something):

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What's on your finger Mum?

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Brandilynn
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Post   » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:20 am


HOORAY! That is so great!! Go Trevor !! Bless you for taking such good care of him, and for Pinta and her great ideas she had for Roxy !

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:33 am


Trevor is continuing to improve in certain respects. He has not cried again while urinating and his poos are looking the best they've looked so far, like a normal pigs poos should look. And of course his mobility is steadily improving as well.

However, I believe he is beginning to develop bumblefoot on his front feet. I will be moving him to a bigger cage tonight to allow him to move around a bit more, hopefully that will help some. I've also printed off the information from the main Guinea Lynx site regarding treatment.

His feet aren't swollen, but do have two little blackish/brown spots in the middle of the pads with a bit of redness around them (one spot on each foot). I thought they might be the beginnings of spurs at first, but they do look like smaller versions of the pictures I've seen of bumblefoot.

He's currently on Baytril and has been since I got him in. He's bedded on towels that I change twice daily. I read a few posts that said sometimes the condition clears up once movement is increased. Can anyone confirm this? I hope this will be the case with Trevor.

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AliceMcmallis
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Post   » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:36 am


Thanks Brandilynn! You would love him I think, he's got so much spirit. Pinta rocks!

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