Steve's teeth?

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RavenShade
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Post   » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:48 pm


To update, except for my nerves and re-doing everything (but the administration) the first time, warming the syringe-full under the tap works fine. No more freaking out (him or me). I also went really slow. I don't know if this was a factor, but it seemed to be better.

Now I just need to find a store that sells raw beets. I've been to three. Are beets out of season?

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Mum
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Post   » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:10 pm


I found them last week at Gelsons!

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snowflakey
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Post   » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:14 pm


I see beets in just about every store. The best ones come with greens attached (my pigs love those too) - you know the root is fresh if the greens look good.

I hope you can find some! Steve should really enjoy them. I've been feeding them cut up, with greens, and the pigs have been very happy. They dig out the beets first thing and leave the lettuce for later.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:39 pm


Good luck, RS. I'm so glad the subcues are not as difficult now.

Kellyjo

Post   » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:26 am


I don't know how I posted here..wrong thread. :(

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RavenShade
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Post   » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:34 am


How come you can find them your way but I can't? Arg. I plan on going to the "fancy" Giant tonight. Regular Giant doesn't have them.

Lynx, me, too! I kept forgetting steps and dropping things.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:43 am


How much calcium can you give a pig with kidney problems? I worry that part of Steve's problem is not getting enough calcium, but I also don't want him to end up with stones.

I'm calling the vet again today. He has trouble eating. He chews very very slowly, and even CC takes forever.

He's otherwise active and alert. In the mornings, he will beg as per usual, and did some laps around the livingroom last night. He is quite thin, though. He poops frequently, but they are small. I can't seem to keep weight on him.

What now?

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:47 am


I think concentrating on food in the correct ratio is better than looking at base amounts of calcium.

It's tough when you can't keep weight on a pig.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:53 am


He has an appointment Tuesday (but I'm going to call Monday and see if the regular vet can see us). I'm going to spend my long weekend feeding him, I guess.

I also need to check my scale. It says he's 1lb 8 oz, but when I take him off the scale, it says -1 lb 11 oz. That's a significant difference. Either way, he's still under his old 2 lbs 2 oz weight from the summer.

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Brimstone
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Post   » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:01 pm


RS - I'm so sorry to hear about Steve's troubles. I hope he improves soon and starts packing some weight on.

Does he still hop? One of my vets mentioned something once about seeing possible connections between arthritis and kidney disease. I was wondering if Steve was ever diagnosed with arthritis.

My Rocky has kidney disease, although at his last exam the bloodwork showed his levels were within normal parameters. (yay!) He hops a little and sometimes can't get his feet over the edge of his cozy cuddle. Physical exam didn't indicate any pain or stiffness in his legs/hips, but we haven't had an xray to rule out arthritis.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:07 am


I'm sorry to hear Rocky has kidney problems, too.

He hops occasionally (mornings, mostly) but is walking a lot more normally. It doesn't stop him from a nightly run around the livingroom. I had some Meloxicam so I've been giving it to him again. Vet said I should if I thought he was in pain. One of the things I want to discuss with the vet is getting more Meloxicam for long-term dosing, and further tests.

Baby food encouraged him to eat a bit more yesterday and this morning, so I am hopeful.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:17 am


The regular vet called me back. Says to increase Steve's dose (I'd been giving him a half dose because I was low and that's what I'd given him to wean him off it after the last trim) to the full amount. I'll pick it up tomorrow. He did say that with kidney problems, it's not the best med, but he wants to keep Steve comfortable. Any thoughts on this?

He also said he can squeeze us in at 3:15 Monday.

I know I'm on borrowed time, much as I hate to admit it. But I'll keep fighting for Steve as long as he's still able to enjoy life.

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Brimstone
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Post   » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:21 pm


In addition to Rocky's current condition of mild kidney disease, we also dealt with Radar who had it last year. The vet prescribed tramadol for Radar's pain. It's an analgesic that's a synthetic opioid. It's "off label" for use in guinea pigs so we were a little hesitant, but basically it was the only option. They've used it on rats, and I guess it's been tested on pigs. It's commonly used on dogs and cats. Radar got 0.1 ml every 12 hours at 10 mg/mL. I was worried about the "experimental" drug, but Radar's necropsy showed no signs of toxicity in his liver, meaning none of the drugs he received caused damage. I guess he was just too far along in the disease by the time it was diagnosed and there wasn't much we could do for him. X-rays had revealed that Radar had arthritis in addition to the kidney disease.

You keep fighting for Steve and I'll pray that Steve will keep fighting along with you.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:25 pm


Was the tramadol for the arthritis or just generic pain?

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Brimstone
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Post   » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:34 pm


The tramadol was because he'd just had his teeth trimmed and still seemed to be in pain from that. Maybe there was some generic pain involved too, but mostly it was for the teeth. He had had an NSAID (probably meloxicam, I don't remember) before they realized he had kidney issues. They didn't want to continue with that for the same reasons you mentioned.

I never realized Radar had any kind of arthritic problems until the xray to diagnose his teeth/kidney problems. He was always very active, running around, and was a great one for stretching waaay up on the grids to beg for treats. No signs of joint pain.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:14 pm


I'll ask about the tramadol. I went to get the meloxicam yesterday and they were closed (I guess the vet forgot they were having construction done). That's been my weekend.

Steve is up 1 ounce (yay!) so maybe that pain relief was what he needed.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:19 pm


Good news. Best wishes to Steve and you tomorrow.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:54 am


Thanks.

He's back down half an ounce this morning. This is so frustrating.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:07 am


Got some tramadol. The visit was very depressing.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:52 am


I'm sorry to hear that (the depressing part). It is hell having a sick pig that is not easily cured.

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