What to check at the vet

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Mum
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Post   » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:47 pm


I'm hoping these numbers will mean something to somebody?

pinta

Post   » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:12 pm


not me.

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lisam

Post   » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:19 pm


You may want to email Josephine and Mel to see if they have any input.

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melcvt00

Post   » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:46 pm


I can't remember what normal globulin is for guinea pigs.

Kurloff bodies......it's been a long time since I've seen that term. I want to say that they are something normally seen on guinea pig blood smears. The clot in the tube means the person took too long drawing the blood, and the blood was clotting by the time it got put in the tube that doesn't allow the blood to clot.

Those numbers don't seem scary to me.

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Post   » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:05 pm


Thanks, Mel - it took them forever to get the blood from the toenail overclip. The girls doing it were extremely upset that I insisted they use that method!

So, the presence of Kurloff bodies doesn't mean she's pregnant?

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Post   » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:58 pm


I guess it depends on how much blood you need, whether the toenail clip is a good choice. I think Josephine fills tiny hematocrit tubes. Don't know what technique Mel uses.

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Post   » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:17 am


I think Josephine fills tiny hematocrit tubes
Yes, that's what they did at my vet's office too.

I was wondering whether anything in these blood tests would explain Muffins near blindness - which was why I had the bloodwork done.

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Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:24 pm


None of that is concerning.

Kurloff Bodies (or Kurloff Cells) are unique I think to cavies. They still don't know exactly what they mean, but they seem to be related to estrogen levels. The problem is, all of the labwork I've done on sows has had no comment on Kurloff Bodies and all the boars are the ones that were commented on. Boars do have estrogen in their bodies, but not like sows! I have never heard of the pregnancy claim.

If you really want to work up her eyes more, you can see a veterinary ophthalmologist. I've been pleased in the past since they know their stuff and can usually properly diagnose an eye problem faster than a general practioner.

Yes, the techs are right about overclips being stressful--especially when they aren't experienced in doing them. So are jug sticks with some pigs and staff. I've seen more damage done with trying to get direct sticks on exotics than doing the toenail thing, which is why I often resort to that. It depends on the situation. If I was in an ideal world with ideal conditions, yes, I'd go for the direct stick every time. Unfortunately (fortunately), we don't work on machines and circumstances differ from patient to patient.

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Post   » Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:29 pm


Thanks, Josephine.

It's always possible that she's a lot older than we think, and that this eye problem is related to aging. I don't know of any veterinary opthalmologists in my area, do you? Cost might be prohibitive, though, especially if it's not reversible.

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Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:46 pm


Not in Southern California. I have always found the specialists to SAVE me money on diagnostics. While the initial consultations cost about twice a normal GP visit, they have a wealth of information and save a lot of time mucking about trying to figure out things. That's been my experience. I love my GP, but she's not an ophthalmologist a radiologist, or a specialty surgeon. She refers me out when necessary and together, the GPs and specialists make great teams.

You may never know how old she is for sure. Sometimes the degree of calcification in the bones and lungs on x-rays can help age a cavy.

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Post   » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:05 pm


Yes, that was how we realized how old Spot is!

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luvmypigs2

Post   » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:13 pm


I think that ophthalmologists do CERF on dogs. Link for a list of ophthalmologists:

http://www.vmdb.org/clinic.html

If they do dogs can they do GP's?

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Post   » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:26 pm


Thanks for the link. I don't think one could assume that dog specialists could also be knowledgeable about guinea pigs, anymore than a regular vet would be cavy savvy. But one of these people certainly might be knowledgeable. I think I'd only go on recommendation, though. It's so annoying to pay to see a 'cavy savvy' vet only to find out they're not :-) (Done that a few times!)

Fweeprluvr

Post   » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:36 am


Mum, there is a very good board certified Vet ophthalmologist in Camarillo and she sometimes goes to other vets on certain days to practice there. i think she may go to Woodland Hills on one of her days. Her name is Dr. Da Silva and she is very nice. Unfortuanltely I have been to her with 3 dogs and a cat. Of course I don't know if she knows anything about piggy eyes. I will look up her number and get it to you.

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Post   » Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:56 am


I took Muffin down the Dr. Ridgeway today as a companion to Eloise who needed an xray.

Just before we left, I asked them to do a quick xray of Muffin to check her heart and her age.

She's about 4 years old.

Oh, and her heart is enlarged too.

Ahem!

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sus4rabbitsnpigs

Post   » Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:59 am


Uh oh. All these pigs are turning out to be older than the previous owners claimed? :(

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Post   » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:00 am


These two were part of the four that you and I took. They were mixed ages, remember?

I got the sick ones:-p

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sus4rabbitsnpigs

Post   » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:02 am


Their owner said they were all one and a half years old. The BP ones, right?

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Post   » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:07 am


They did?

They were wrong. They were all different sizes though, as I recall. Carrot looked older, and Apple was little. Eloise was only about 6 months old, and I had no idea about Muffin!

At least it means Muffin's blindness isn't so abnormal.

But both of them heart pigs?

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Post   » Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:48 am


Update on Muffin:

Dr. Ridgeway called me today. What we saw on the xray, and the vet tech (and we) thought was enlargement on one side was not. Her heart is fine (it was rotated).

However, that enormous thing that we saw in her urethra (and thought must have been a blip on the xray) was indeed a stone - which she was in the process of passing.

She's never shown a single sign of stones. And she managed to pee all over herself in the carrier, so she must have passed it (it was never found).

Darn. I thought I could escape a stone situation - at least for a while.

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