Excessive weight gain

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Kallie

Post   » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:43 pm


Timmy seemed a bit more energetic this morning, though not by much. Right now I'll take any little bit I can get. We're heading to his appointment in a few minutes, so I will update you when we're back.

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Kallie

Post   » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:41 pm


We just got back from Timmy’s appointment and it’s not very good news. He has a couple small new pockets of pus under his chin, as well as the deep corner of the original big pocket is full of pus. The deep corner is the one spot you can’t get very well with flushing. Also because the pus is so thick, a drain won’t work.

He will go back to the vet’s tomorrow for the day so he can be put under with anesthetic and have a very good cleaning and scraping done. We’re also going to switch his AB to something else to see if that helps, as well as extend his Tramadol for at least another 5 days since he is still in so much pain. All other meds will remain the same for now.

Oh and the screaming is being caused by both pain and nerve endings starting to heal. My nerves and heart can't handle his screaming.

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Lovemypig

Post   » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:44 pm


Oh no. I'm so sorry to hear this. Poor little guy. I hope the new pain meds will help him significantly and that tomorrow's procedure will be just what he needs. I'll be thinking about y'all tonight. Timmy. :(

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Kallie

Post   » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:33 pm


I was so wrapped up with remembering all the details of Timmy's appointment that I totally forgot to mention that the black colouring I mentioned is actually bruising. This is such a relief.

Right now he's snuggled up in his cage for the night. We're not going to do any flushing tonight to give him a bit of a rest before his big day tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed that everything goes well tomorrow. I know I won't be getting much sleep the next couple of days, but he is so worth the sleepless nights and stress!

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:37 pm


Poor little guy! I am so sorry about the pain he is in and the new pus (I know this is hard on you both). I hope you can get things back on track.

Tracis
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Post   » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:27 am


I'm sending good thoughts for Timmy, and hoping that things go well at the vet's office. He is such a handsome guy.

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Kallie

Post   » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:08 pm


Timmy is home from his vet stay. A few changes to his meds, some good or encouraging news, and some not so good news.

The not so good news first: Timmy has “dry socket” where his molar was removed. It’s been cleaned out, had AB beads put in and stitched up. The root of the tooth behind the molar that was removed was slightly elongated from his last xray, so Dr. Munn trimmed the root and molar a bit since she could access the root through the hole left by the missing tooth.

She also checked the holes where she had to drill through his jaw. The AB bead she put in there during the first surgery didn’t dissolve any, so she broke it up and put it back in the hole, then stitched it up as well.

Now for the good news: The surgery took approx 1 hour and he woke up from the anesthetic much easier this time. She was able to clean out the big pocket of the thick pus and saw quite a bit of pink tissue inside, meaning he is healing. She mentioned the pocket is a little smaller already, which is great. Also, the 2 lumps under his chin she thought were new abscesses are actually scar tissue, which is a big relief for me.

Timmy’s AB Baytril has been switched to (sorry don’t know the full name) Sulfa/Trim, which will hopefully bring any more infection under control. His Metacam was increased to 0.15 and he’ll remain on Tramadol until he no longer needs it. He’ll also remain on the Cisapride and Oval until he starts pooping again which the vet thinks will happen once the pain is more under control.

He will go through another surgery 1 week from today to clean everything out again, and every week afterwards until things are healed enough and no signs of new pus or infection show up.

Until then we continue with the hand feeding and flushing etc as before.

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Lovemypig

Post   » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:07 pm


I opened this thread with one eye closed, crossing my fingers. Whew. Not so bad news! Sulfatrim (sp?) sounds familiar to me. I need to look over my old thread.

Wow, that's alot to go through, for both of you. I really hope that the surgery will now provide some relief for him. I hope he's resting comfortably right now and everything goes better from here on out.

I'll bet you are exhausted. Good thoughts tonight for Timmy who I just adore.

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Kallie

Post   » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:21 pm


Thanks Lovemypig. You're right, I'm exhausted, but it's worth it knowing that despite some setbacks, Timmy is improving. He ate a bit of dinner tonight and is right now snuggled up on my youngest son. He will soon come up to bed with me. I managed to get approx 2 hours sleep last night, made it some how through work today, and the cycle will repeat itself tonight. But until then, we'll do what we have to in order to keep Timmy comfy and get him healthy again.

I'll give him a kiss for you!

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:30 pm


I am hanging onto the good news and hoping things continue to improve. Sounds like you have a good vet. I am sure she wants him healthy again.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:32 pm


Bless you for all you are doing to help this little one.

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Kallie

Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:23 am


Timmy is doing quite well since his last surgery 2 days ago. He’s gained 37 grams since being home which is awesome. He was very energetic this morning and was even eating his salad much faster. Oh and he was doing a bit of popcorning this morning!
Still not eating crunchy things, but that’s okay for now. Now only if I can get him pooping properly I’ll be very happy.

By chance does the pain meds (Tramadol and Metacam) cause constipation in pigs as some do in humans? I’m wondering because last night while he was laying on me, he started doing this weird thing with his butt, like he couldn’t get it comfortable. He kept lifting one side up then the other with force, shifting only his backend quite a bit and whining. I first thought he was having a seizure, that’s how weird his backend was moving. He was obviously very uncomfortable for a bit. This lasted approx 2 minutes.

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Lovemypig

Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:37 am


My memory is hazy from when Quilt was so sick, but I do remember my vet saying something about the Metacam and fecal output. She put him on something (begins with an "r") to help move things along.

Great news about Timmy! I'm so happy to hear he's doing better.

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Vipergurl88

Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:26 pm


I'm so glad Timmy is doing better and I hope he is on the road to recovery with no more obstacles!

Re the medications - Sulfatrim is another name for Bactrim, and Reglan was probably what was used to keep his gut moving.

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Kallie

Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:59 pm


Ahh thanks Vipergurl. Bactrim I do know. Would Cisapride do the same thing as Reglan? If not, I'll ask his vet for some on Monday when she opens again.

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Vipergurl88

Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:09 pm


I don't remember whether cisapride is the same as Reglan or not. I hate it when meds have multiple names!

Cisapride, Metaclompromide, and Reglan are motility drugs that come to mind right now, and either cisapride or metaclompromide is the same thing as reglan, but I can't remember which one. I hope that made sense.

Both drugs have the same function, to my understanding. The difference is, they work on different areas of the GI tract. Cisapride will work just fine to keep his gut moving, provided he doesnt have any issues such as blockage.

On that note - if he develops any signs of blocking (no poops at all even though he's eating, obvious pain/discomfort) stop all motility drugs and have your vet take an x-ray for more info.

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camende
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Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:24 pm


Reglan is the same as metoclopramide.

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Vipergurl88

Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:28 pm


Thanks Camende. I couldn't remember whether it was Cisapride or Metaclompromide.

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Kallie

Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:00 pm


Great, thanks for the info. I will ask Timmy's vet for some Reglan Monday morning when she opens. Do I also continue with the Cisapride at the same time as Reglan, or is it better to stop the Cisapride first? He's been having a lot of gas issues since the first surgery, which is why he was put on it.

I worry about the amount of meds he's on, at what point do I have to think that maybe we're overloading his system and maybe the meds are doing more harm then good? I know I can't stop the pain meds and Bactrim for at least another 3-4 weeks.

Right now he's on Enapril for his enlarged heart, Metacam, Tramadol, Cisapride, Oval, Bactrim, Hibitaine ointment and Vit C. He's also being flushed and hand fed 2 times daily along with his soft salads and unlimited leafy hay.

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Vipergurl88

Post   » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:11 pm


I am not an expert, so check with your vet first, but I'm almost positive i read on here in a thread a while back that someone had their pig on both motility drugs. Since they work on different parts of the GI system, I would think they'd be just fine being used together.

Since Timmy is already on a big load of meds, I would make sure he really needs both motility drugs before putting him on it. I don't think it would hurt anything, but the poor little guy already has so much of a cocktail to swallow.

Also, without reading back, is he on probiotics? That could also help his gut since he's on Bactrim. I know it's one of the lighter antibiotics and doesnt usually cause problems like some of the bigger ones, but probiotics never hurt.

ETA: massage usually can help gassy pigs (and rabbits, for the record). If you have a heating pad, you can set it on low, wrapped in a towel. Have the heating pad on your lap and Timmy on the pad, and gently rub/massage his sides and tummy to help him pass the gas bubbles. Only do this if he is comfortable with it, as some pigs dont like it. If the heating pad vibrates, he may like that better.

Several members have tried this with success on their pigs, and it helped me with one of my rabbits.

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