Soft poop: what the vet said

Post Reply
HollyT
Get on your bike.

Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:20 pm


somechick, severe issues would cause death. She's not at that point yet. I've used up to 1cc of simithicone.

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:32 pm


Reading these links now. Therabloat is by Pfizer for bloat in cattle. As far as whats in it, all I can see is poloxalene.

About megacolon - is this something that could crop up out of nowhere one day? Because this is how it seems with PC. She's fine, then one day some soft poos, take her to the vet and now full blown disaster. And would an xray show a sign of this?

HollyT
Get on your bike.

Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:34 pm


Megacolon can happen from stress, diet, some genetics are involved as well. It happens suddenly. She might not be able to tolerate greens at all.

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:36 pm


HollyT - you don't think? I live in fear that each night will be her last. I'm sure I'm too close to the situation to think rationally about it though.

It's weird that she would suddenly not tolerate greens. Oh and looking at those photos of the rats, she's not nearly that boulbus on the sides.

HollyT
Get on your bike.

Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:39 pm


Her sides and abdomen would be seriously distended with severe gas. Perhaps you're controlling it better than you think.

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:41 pm


Well shes very gassy, there's no doubt about that. All the x-ray showed was gas. It's the puffed up coat that upsets me the most for some reason. I don't like seeing her like that.

And shes eating everything shes's not supposed to! Eating the cozies, her wooden ramp, and carefresh (which I just replaced with hay). Short of taking everything out of her cage and leaving her on the coroplast, I can't think of how to stop this.

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:10 am


Our megacolon pig would fluff up and face the corner ... then pass some feces (often green and soft), then feel much better.

Give her some cardboard. A toilet paper roll cut lengthwise, with the corners nipped off to protect her eyes, is a good choice. If she has developed megacolon (and I have no idea whether or not she has), the cardboard may actually help her. It seemed to help ours. The inert fiber seemed to help, not hurt.

Everything HollyT has said agrees with my understanding of megacolon. Ours developed it very abruptly. It doesn't show up on x-ray per se; what shows up on x-ray is (guess what) gas.

Exercise helps.

klynne

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:36 am


"It doesn't show up on x-ray per se; what shows up on x-ray is (guess what) gas."

Right, and another particular hallmark to look for is an enlarged cecum, possibly with other signs of abnormality, very assymetrical, thin walls at one point, etc. My vet had to use contrast to get that much detail, but you could see it.

Unfortunately, that type of confirmation about Megacolon usually only comes with necropsy.

Talishan, thanks so much for posting those links, was getting ready to do a search and gratefully saw you'd already been way ahead of me ;-)

ETA: What precisely are the pig in question's markings? (Did I miss this, if so, sorry.)

Is it known what colors/markings either or both of the parents were?

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:58 am


Not re-reading -- has there been any clostridial bacteria noted in the poop? Did you reread the diarrhea page? At the bottom is a link to a product that will help with the bacterial overgrowth.

Give extra vitamin C too.

www.guinealynx.info/diarrhea.html

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:09 am


The one with the probelms is my avatar pig on the left. White with different brown patches on its eyes and a big brown patch on her left rump. No idea about the parents. Looks like one of the pigs in Talishans avatar too.

Lynx, the fecal didn't come up with anything. I read the diarrhea page and see flagyl and baytril. I have Zeniquin and Nystatin here.

Im supposed to call the vet today but I don't even know what to say anymore.

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:29 am


Called the vet, the receptionist said he said to stop the reglan. Shes still puffy this morning, but less so.

I don't know if I should call the other vet I know of down in Cherry Hill or what. I haven't been to him yet so I don't know that I should vet hop, but at the same time, I don't know..

User avatar
Amy0204
We miss our sweet Oreo

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:10 am


The only thing you have to lose by consulting another vet is a few more $$ but if it brings you peace of mind or a better outcome for your pig, it'll be worth it. Just tell him you've been working with someone else, but you're concerned that things are not improving and want a second opinion. Most vets are professional about that. Just make sure the Cherry Hill guy is knowledgeable about gps.

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:28 am


The CH guy is on the vet list on this site, he seems to be the only other one in the state other than Red Bank. I will call on Monday because I don't know what else to do.

HollyT
Get on your bike.

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:11 pm


I wouldn't let my pig eat cardboard, carefresh, or anything not related to food. It could cause a blockage.

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:18 pm


I got an appt with the CH guy on Monday. PC is now sitting in her cozy all puffed. I feel very not okay about what's going on here. I hate to be negative, but I'm not feeling good. I don't know exaclty what puffed up means other than "not feeling well" but I don't know what the signs of, well, the end are.

Rascal

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:27 pm


I'm sorry your piggy is so sick. I need to ask you - is there something wrong with RedBank. I made a monday appt there for a very sick bunny because her regular vet is currently unavailable. I will let you know what I think of them but please let me know if there is anything I should be aware of.

User avatar
Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:29 pm


What sort of fecal was done? Was it sent out to a lab?

How's her weight?

Are you handfeeding? How much, how often?

Did the puffing start after the Zeniquin was added?

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:39 pm


Fecal under the microscope and a float. No lab. I could insist on that next time since I know he likes taking my money. I guess I didn't know poop got sent out.

She's gained weight since her loss. She was a 1lb 3oz, now back up to 1lb 6oz (she's always been little, 1lb 7oz was her peak it seemed). I don't know how this works, but do you think MORE gas could make her gain weight or is this weight gain due to eating?

I'm handfeeding as much as I can. The past two days I got about 30ccs and 21ccs in her. Today I've done 10 so far and will start up again soon.

The puffing was pre-Zenaquin. She was sitting puffy before I took her to the vet on Wed. and that was before the a/b. I thought the a/b was improving her as she wasn't so puffy on Thuesday, but now we're back to puffy; I'm concerned the a/b isn't making her feel great. I don't know what I'm allowed to stop and start since I'm no vet. Maybe the guy on Monday will have better advice.

I don't know what's best to do: leave her be (except for feedings and drugs) or to have her out and force her to play.

User avatar
somechick

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:03 pm


Oh and is Bactrim safe for GI infections? Doc keeps saying that he likes the Baytril for GI problems, but I don't get why he won't give me Bactrim - he thinks it might do more harm than good.

HollyT
Get on your bike.

Post   » Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:04 pm


I would listen to him then. Ask him why he thinks that way. Perhaps it has something to do with the culture.

Post Reply
602 posts