New rescue: Underweight Boar

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rshevin

Post   » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:47 pm


I too am wary of anesthesia so I'm going to have to suffice with a visual check. It's more than I can do myself ya know.

I'll work on cleaning up both Piggy and Smudgie tonight. AFTER dinner I think.

Talishan
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Post   » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:51 pm


The hunching also makes me think of elimination discomfort. Do you see him do that before defecating, or before retrieving a cecotrope?

It may take his body a while to adjust to a good diet.

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rshevin

Post   » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:13 pm


Talishan, I know he doesn't appear to have any problems pooping. This pig is pooping more than any other I have ever seen, probably because his diet is mostly hay right now. It doesn't mean he isn't in discomfort, just that he isn't vocializing it in a way I understand.

Compared to Piggy his poops are normally sized and shaped, slightly greener, and a little softer but you have to keep in mind they are on somewhat different diets. Smudgie's poos, while a little softer, are still the right shape so I hope all is ok. I'll show some to the vet.

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rshevin

Post   » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:38 pm


Dear Mum,
We heard that YOU were responsible for the indignity recently bestowed upon us by our mother. We would like to express our utmost disgust and dislike for this proceedure you recommended. It was extremely un-manly and we like to think of ourselves as very boarly boars.

Sincerely,
Piggy and Smudgie

Smudgie definately has pain around his penis. I was able to get it out and couldn't see anything but it'll be brought up with the vet. I still can't get Piggy's out. I'll let the existing oil work around and try again until I get it.

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rshevin

Post   » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:42 pm


Dear Mum,
We heard that YOU were responsible for the indignity recently bestowed upon us by our mother. We would like to express our utmost disgust and dislike for this proceedure you recommended. It was extremely un-manly and we like to think of ourselves as very boarly boars.

Sincerely,
Piggy and Smudgie

Smudgie definately has pain around his penis. I was able to get it out and couldn't see anything but it'll be brought up with the vet. I still can't get Piggy's out. I'll let the existing oil work around and try again until I get it.

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Mum
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Post   » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:19 pm


Dear Piggy and Smudgie

I'm so sorry you had to suffer such indignity, but mums know best you know. And you'll feel so much better when it's done.

Chins up!

Mum

P.S. Llewelyn and Heddwyn send their deepest sympathies and suggest that a quick nip on the offender's boob is a useful reminder to stop NOW :-p

Talishan
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Post   » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:55 pm


Mum scores another coffee on monitor! :-)

There's lymph nodes down there. Mumble mumble mumble. Hopefully if there's an infection or inflammation, it can be treated straightforwardly.

klynne

Post   » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:05 am


"Mum scores another coffee on monitor!"

If only coffee were all--I am still battling that sinus infection! (Ick, sorry, TMI.)

Rshevin, "Out Damn Smudgie" just does not have the same ring to it! Cute name for a cute pig though. Hope he continues to improve under your good care.

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rshevin

Post   » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:25 am


Well, Smudgie got a much cleaner bill of health from the vet than I expected. He only did a visual check of the teeth but I think that's reasonable for now, given his age, and said they actually look fine. Felt around his jaw to see how the teeth met and all.

The vet was surprised that he ever even had a fungal infection because it's already cleared up so well but did a culture anyway. I had to remind him to wipe the monistat off. You wouldn't get a very good culture that way!

Vet didn't think he had mites but that isn't going to stop me from going through with the ivermectin. I would much rather prevent a problem than treat one. He thought the pain around genitels was tissue inflammation left over from the poor diet and husbandry.

He recommended some additional vitamin C in case he's deficient so now I have the Oxbow C tabs. I've been meaning to get some for a year but have just been using the liquid from the health food store. The tabs are much easier to transport, that's for sure. Said to keep supplementing and at the same time encouraging him to eat on his own in different ways.

Basicly all the same things you've been saying but after my other experience, I just wouldn't be able to sleep without having the teeth checked.

P.S. Sorry for the double post up there. It didn't even show up until this morning. Computers are very weird sometimes.

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LandosMomma

Post   » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:05 am


Congrats! I'm glad he is doing better than you thought! You are an angel!

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Mum
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Post   » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:55 pm


Great news!

Talishan
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Post   » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:05 pm


"He thought the pain around genitels was tissue inflammation left over from the poor diet and husbandry."

Mumble. Keep an eye on it.

Otherwise, great news.

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rshevin

Post   » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:58 pm


I agree with your mumble there Talishan. I most certainly will keep an eye on it. One good thing was I was actually able to observe him urinate at the vet and no wheeking, grittiness, or blood.

klynne

Post   » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:01 pm


Good news indeed. Keep it up Smudgie.

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rshevin

Post   » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:45 pm


Well, I have a little update today. I gave Smudgie a small amount of critical care this morning but not nearly as much as he wanted, less than 10cc. He still isn't really gaining but his weight was stable all day at 760g. I'm getting impatient here but I know you can't rush it. I think the CC really stimulated this appetite because lookie what we have tonight, an almost empty bowl!:

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I'm still treating with the monistat 2-3 times a day (I can only do lunchtime most days, not every day) and the fungal infection is looking MUCH better. I can't wait to introduce him to Piggy. That has to be the hardest part of quarentine, that and the constant hand washing. One should absoutely make sure to have moisturizing hand soap for quarentine time! Piggy just wants to say his floor time just isn't the same without his petstore cage to curl up in and can he pretty please have it back now (Smudgie is now in a C&C but I haven't sanatized the old cage). Doesn't he look pitiful trying to sleep in the middle of the floor?:

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Momo, I do have a message that Smudgie asked me to pass on to Mojo and McMac. He says "Wheeep, wheep, boik boik boik, boik wheep, wheeeeeek" which I think translates roughly to "how the heck do you put up with these awful haircuts! My momma stinks!"

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cutemomomi
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Post   » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:03 pm


Hey Smudgie, worry not.
As for bad hair goes, Mojo and McMac wins hands-down!
**hint, it was MUM who taught me how to cut hair too**
You are just doing so well little Smudgie, very proud of your mommy there! : )

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rshevin

Post   » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:41 pm


Ok now that Smudgie is hopefully out of the woods (knock on wood), I'd love it if I could get a few opinions from ya'll on the more mundane aspects of a rescue.

Should I go ahead and give him as many pellets as he'll eat or limit to 1/4c?

With no symptoms of mites, is 2 treatments of ivermectin sufficient?

How long on the monistat to prevent recurrence of the fungus?

When to bathe?

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Mum
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Post   » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:23 pm


I'd feed him unlimited pellets.

If the fungus is gone, I'd stop the monistat.

And I'd bath him now with Nizoral - be sure to leave it on 10 mins.

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rshevin

Post   » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:33 pm


Thank you Mum. :-) Nizoral, right, I knew there was something else I needed while I was at Walgreens and Target. Bah, I'll just get some when I return the sweatpants that are too big.

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happyhoppy

Post   » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:07 pm


Piggy looks like a small St. Bernard dog in that pic above. Are you fostering Smudgie or is he going to be Piggy's forever friend or foe?

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