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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:21 pm

Probably thanks to the stress of losing two cagemates, Henry has been having a rough time of it. I noticed:

- He was occassionally sneezing Wednesday. This is a big deal, as he never really sneezed before (other than one huff-like sneeze after grooming). I noticed him sneeze four or five times over the course of a few hours.

- He was producing a white powdery urine, which he never used to do before.

- He wasn't sprawled out on his side when he slept.

I took him up to K-State yesterday. His lungs and bladder are totally clear. His urine is good and dilute, which means he's drinking plenty. They found some bacteria in his urine, so they gave me some TMS to treat him with for a UTI. Dr. Swenson said that it should also take care of anything that might be going on with the respiratory system.

I noticed he didn't sneeze once the entire time we traveled to and from K-State. He did sneeze a couple of times at home. His nose was a tad wet with one of the sneezes, but it didn't look like yucky snot, just a little wet. Other than that, he's already 10x happier looking then he was yesterday before going to the vet.

Is there any reason to worry about the slighty wet nose with that one sneeze?

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:30 pm

Poor Henry, I hope not. I think the antibiotics will work even if he has a concurrent URI.

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:31 pm

Hi! I have been wondering about little Henry.

It sounds like you did the right thing getting him to the vet. With all his stressors lately, it is good to err on the side of caution.

I think if the wetness on the nose is clear, I would just keep a very close eye on it while continuing the meds. Did you bring anything new into the house on Wednesday? (I am thinking holiday greens). If so, maybe the sneezing is from some sensitivity rather than something infectious. Just a shot in the dark, but a thought...

Henry, we are all rooting for you!

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:38 pm

The bactrim should take care of everything. Poor baby.

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I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:48 pm

Henry, you must NOT get sick!

I hope he's ok.


Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:07 pm

Thanks for some reassurance. As I said, he's tons better today, even after the indignity of going to the vet and getting x-rays.

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:24 pm

Henry, listen to Mum. Feel better soon.

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:57 pm

Merry Christmas Henry. Stay well or else Santa won't bring you anything this year.

Glad to hear his spirits are up.

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:58 pm

Waves Hi to Henry. Feel better sweetie. I am wondering if he is stressed at losing his friends? But then it is only my guess.

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:02 pm

Henry, Ozzy would like to be your pal. I know we are not close but he would love to snuggle with you and make you feel better about losing your buddies. He is a very friendly boy. Please feel better and do not stress your mommy and daddy slave anymore.

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:10 pm

Zachary went through a bout of wet sneezes (with no discharge or eye crusties) before I switched to towels and fleece. Our regular vet kept saying "allergies," but I was very skeptical. They were all bedded on CareFresh at the time; prior to that, I used pine (ugh) which made my own allergies go into overdrive. I had a hard time believing that Zach could be having problems with the Carefresh, but I switched to towels/fleece just to see -- and also because the Carefresh was getting so costly with the addition of two new pigs at the time. The wet sneezing stopped.

Unless there are any other symptoms with the sneezing, I really wouldn't worry too much. The course of Bactrim should take out anything that might be going on with either UTI or URI, and it's so generally well tolerated that it shouldn't interfere with appetite.

Big hugs to Henry!

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:15 pm

Ditto Sef and everyone else.

I would suspect that all of the recent stresses in his life (and yours) put him a little at the edge of his resistance. Not sick, just precious close, and vulnerable, to it. I think the Bactrim is a good preventive measure.

Sef, the regular (grey) Carefresh is extraordinarily dusty. Worse than kiln-dried pine or aspen. When we used it our entire big pig room was covered in a thin coating of grey dust. We don't use it at all any more.

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Post   » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:09 pm

After Chippy died, both my girls would run and scream every time I came near them. When I picked them up, they would shiver and shake. Buttercup actually developed a UTI because she wouldn't come out from her corner and sat way too long in the hay or her fleece. They really went through pretty major depression. Chippy was always the heart of the herd.

We treated her with TMS and she's finally starting to be more active and not running away from me. She's also staying dry again.

I really do think in their little piggy brains, they sometimes associate us with the demise of the herd. Everytime a pig gets sick, we take them out, hand-feed them, take them away to the vets. When the final outcome is their friends don't pull through, I suspect they come to associate us with that outcome. This, in my theory, adds to their stress level.

They always get over it; it just takes time.

Good thoughts heading to Henry.


Post   » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:31 am

I think Henry has an intolerance to TMS. He is usually a champion drinker and pooper. For the past two days, his poops have been getting smaller and have had little stems on them. This morning, he produced a weird poop that was gooey and gross, and he hasn't made much poop since. He's also all but stopped drinking out of the bottle. We thought a lot of this had to do with the excitement of getting new pigs, but now I'm worried.

He ate Critical Care on his own last night and this morning. He ate his extra wet veggies, no problem. He's munching on hay. He's just not drinking much.

He finished eight days worth of TMS. I am going to not give him any more and call the vet first thing in the morning. I'll also start hand feeding if I don't see any signs of returning normalcy.

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Post   » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:47 am

He just ate about 3/4 of a 'stick' of endive, and I hear bowel sounds, but no poops.

Could over-stimulation (excitement) cause symptoms like this? I hate to separate him when it is so important for them to get to know each other, but it could be done.

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Post   » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:21 am

Has he been getting probiotics while he was on the TMS? I've never had a pig react to TMS. He may need a motility drug. Maybe try some floortime with a pile of hay. Sometimes just getting my guys moving with the fiber from the hay works for my guys.

Everything sounds like its happened around the timing of his new friends. He's had a lot of changes lately. I wouldn't separate them if they're together. Do you still have the cage divided? How did floor time go last night? Maybe the anticipation of wanting to be with his friends is stressing him out? Some stress is to be expected with the addition of new friends.

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Post   » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:14 am

The thing is, he's still eating hay. Haven't necessarily seen him go after pellets, but the hay is still popular. And he eats food, and vitamin C tablets, and Critter Berries.

The cage is still divided, but since Henry and Frost were getting along so well, we gave them both unrestricted space upstairs (together), while Tom and Widget get the divided downstairs.

He just seems really jittery. If he were human I'd wonder if he had taken up meth. I held him for a half hour or so tonight, and he took fifteen minutes to calm down enough to just lay down and relax quietly. The good news is that then once he went back into the cage, he peed, and it was normal pee (slight white center, but no grit/sludge).

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Post   » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:16 am

Oh yeah, and I did some "firm stroke" petting that is designed to massage his belly a little bit while petting him. He's not tender, he didn't complain, and there were clearly active bowel sounds while I was petting him.

Perhaps his gut transit time is just really high.


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Post   » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:52 am

Is he on Benebac or a probiotic? I would probably call the vet and get her opinion. And ask her about a possible motility drug just to be on the safe side, because its the holiday weekend.


Post   » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:06 pm

The advantage of putting him in the top level with Frost is that it's easy to tell whose poops are whose. Henry is back to making poop. Yes, he has been on Benebac this entire time. I will call the vet today, though. He did get a full nine days of antibiotics, but I just don't think continuing it is a good idea.

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