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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:23 am


I have a little over 4 1/2 year old female intact. In February she had an ultra-sound, top/side e-rays, blood work as well as urine tests. She is on KM's timothy pellets and blue orchrd grass as well as red/green lettuce.

All her tests came out fine, bones, kidneys, bladder looked great. Shortly after the tests she has started having what I can only call "bad days". She will eat less and stay in her pigloo and only eat hay. Very few pellets. Since her 4th birthday she has not had any water at all, her choice.

She sits hunched up and slightly fluffed. This is the third time. Its approx. 1 1/2 weeks between episodes. Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? The first time I just kept an eye on her but the second time she went to her vet. She is now starting the 3rd episode tonight. It will last from 24 to 36 hours. I'm at my wits end with this. I've been a "lurker" here for many months and I can't find anything in any post that sounds like this.

Has anyone else had anything like this? If so, did it turn out to be anything or did it just go away? Thanks.

Tammy

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:30 am


Teeth problems?

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:36 am


Sorry, still trying to figure out the site here. No, her teeth were checked visually with a spreader as well as included in the views on the x-rays. Her coat is shiny, no hair falling or anything.

Tammy

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:46 am


Oh! I see you're from northern CA. Who's your vet?

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:51 am


Mark Ross, Montgomery Village Vet. He's seen her since she was 2 mos. old. Whenever I go in I'm always carrying pages from GL. He's learned a lot! He is a good doc on his own though or I wouldn't have stayed with him.

Tammy

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:55 am


I guess you'll have to wait until some of the experts arrive to help you out.

pinta

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:24 am


Arthritis?

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:32 am


Bones looked fine on the x-rays. Tht was one of the things I specifically wanted to check out on her physical. BTW, her weight is dead on with just the normal changes 2lb 4oz to 2lb 6oz.

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Mum
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Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:24 am


What does her heart look like on xray? Did you have both her heart and abdominal cavity checked on ultrasound?

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:36 am


You paid particular attention to the bladder? Any pain on urination? Cysitits perhaps?

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:54 am


There is no squeeking or sounds of any kind when urinating. Neither her vet nor I are that familar with "normal" hearts in GP's but all looked ok on the ultra sound. The Tech that did the ultra sound is one of the tech's from UC Davis.

I had no specific problems when the physical was done. It was actually a throw away comment that Mum had made in one of her posts about getting a base line idea of what is going on that prompted me to have it done. Since so many of the GP's her age haven't made it as far as she has, I just wanted to know.

There were no signs of sludge, irritation, nothing.

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Mum
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Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:18 am


Since so many of the GP's her age haven't made it as far as she has, I just wanted to know.
She's only 4 1/2, though, right? That's only middle-aged!

I do hope you can get to the bottom of this. You weigh her weekly, right? She's lost no weight?

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:34 am


I weigh her twice a week normally. I weigh her at least once a day when she's having these episodes. In answer to the heart/ultra sound, I had checked out the pics posted on this site as to what's normal and from what I could tell, her heart looked fine but I realize this can be deceiving to a layman like me. Her intestinal tract looked fine as far as excessive gas or anything else.

The only thing that lurks in the back of my mind is a possible hormonal issue but again, wouldn't that have shown up in her blood work?

Lady Bug and I have a pact that she will live to be at least 10 years old. I agree, she's just a youngster.

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somechick

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:39 am


There is no squeeking or sounds of any kind when urinating.

When my pig had a UTI, she showed NO signs, so I would never have known that she had one. Okay - she did pass a blood clot, but it was one time only and she never squeaked while peeing or showed that anything was wrong with her. Maybe sitting hunched is *your* pigs way of showing discomfort for a UTI.

I really have no idea, just sharing my experience. But she must be uncomfortable for some reason. Why, I don't know.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:45 am


I agree Somechick-something is wrong. She's just not making it easy to figure out what. She's never passed clots or shown blood of any kind. Her poos are always perfect. I've always tried to be pro-active where she is concerned. I'd rather catch a problem at the beginning before it becomes a huge issue.

It's also the regularity that disturbs me.

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Mum
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Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:48 am


The only thing that lurks in the back of my mind is a possible hormonal issue but again, wouldn't that have shown up in her blood work?
Ovarian cysts should have shown up on ultrasound, although I believe if they're very small they can be missed.

Is she on her own in the cage?

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:53 am


She is an "only". She is one of those Alpha's that will not tolerate her own kind being anywhere near her. Since she is by herself it's easy to monitor what is going on. She and I have been together all day, every day since I first got her so, fortunately, I do know what is normal behavior for her.

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PooksiedAnimals
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Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:00 am


Could it be other cysts/tumors? Eclair had very small ovarian cysts, that were barely noticeable, even with an ultrasound. But once they opened her up, they found growths all over. Similarly, Athena was finally found to have a mass in her chest - but it was only after really searching for something, and even then, it wasn't really clear on the xrays.

Although, in both of those cases, it was a steady decline - not the cyclical nature you describe.

Could it be something she's eating, that she's having a hard time digesting? I know, far fetched, but I'm just throwing out ideas.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:08 am


Not far fetched at all PooksiedAnimals. I've been sitting here the last few weeks trying to figure anything that might be causing this. I buy her lettuce from a truck farm whose quality is great. Their stuff is pretty much local and tend to be the same suppliers that sell at our local Farmers' Market which is completely organic. I also grow her lettuce, weather allowing, so I know what is and what is not in her food. The same with the fresh grass she gets. It comes straight from my yard with no spraying of any kind and well washed, just to be sure.

Hey, I'm looking for something I may not have thought of.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:31 am


Interesting about the cysts PooksiedAnimals. Did you finally just do an explatory on Eclair and Athena or did something finally rear it's ugly head?

I'm torn between just waiting 6 mos and having another ultra sound done and just telling her vet to go ahead and do surgery. Not sure what can happen in 6 months time but her vet has also never done a spay on a Guinea Pig. I wuld still trust him and we have discussed this possibility already. He is very careful and would do a ton of research before any surgeries but still, surgery is alway invasive and always carries risk. Just don't know what to do or what avenues to explore. That's why I finally came here. Collectively, you guys have a wealth of experience.

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