Shelter pigs w/ringworm

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melcvt00

Post   » Thu Feb 20, 2003 6:48 pm


It's not labeled for a fungus, but has been shown to be effective.

And did you know that there are oral treatments for ringworm? Griseofulvin is the usual one.

Evangeline

Post   » Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:02 pm


I hope you're not suggesting it, Mel. It's way too harsh for pigs and should only be used as a very last resort.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:38 pm


I guess some people have had problems with this drug. One person even claimed it caused the death of a young cavy. I don't remember anything else specific but around here it seems to be recommended only as a last resort, as E said. And there are other things that are safer and effective too.

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Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:48 pm


I guess malessezia (a yeast commonly found in dog ears that causes infections) also has chitin in its cell wall. So, lufenuron research is going in that direction. It may be effective against that also at normal doses, but vets are only using it for ringworm and fleas now.

Charybdis

Post   » Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:06 am


The rescue person who is taking in these pigs (btw, she decided to foster all 5--yay!) says that she uses Program on dogs with yeast infections.

Also, the program I have came in a 125mg suspension but it doesn't say how many ml are in the packet. Should we just draw it all up into syringes and measure out 30 mg for each from there?

I found out that none of these are adults. It appears that they are all less than 6 mos. Should they still get the 30mg?

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melcvt00

Post   » Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:46 am


Nope. Wasn't trying to suggest griseofulvin. It's kinda bad that it came across that way.

Charybdis

Post   » Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:53 pm


Question about measuring dosage:

The packets contain 135mg of Program. Since we need 150mg for 5 pigs, I guess we are going to draw up 1 packet into a syringe and find out what the mg/ml ratio is.

Does anyone know if the remainder of the Program will keep or should it be discarded?

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:22 pm


No idea. Advantage, on the other hand, doesn't even come with an expiration date and is good for quite a while (I wrote the company). Is there an expiration date on this product?

Charybdis

Post   » Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:27 pm


yep...8/04, but I'm not sure that means after opening.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:34 pm


Your best bet then is to contact the company and see if some exposure to air makes any difference at all. If it were me, I'd just go by that expiration date and handle it carefully.

Charybdis

Post   » Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:02 pm


Can Program and Ivermectin be given on the same day or should we wait? They just had their Ivermectin--topical.

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melcvt00

Post   » Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:12 pm


I'd go for it.

Foster

Post   » Sun Feb 23, 2003 9:23 pm


I do it all the time.

Josephine
Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:56 pm


No problem whatsoever.

Charybdis

Post   » Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:04 pm


Great. Thanks!

Charybdis

Post   » Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:23 pm


what's the density of program. Since we dose in ml we need to know to calculate the dose.

This is Charandmin by the way.

Evangeline

Post   » Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:43 pm


You mean the concentration? I'll try to find something.

Charybdis

Post   » Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:44 pm


ok, The 270mg packets of Program for cats contain 90mg/ml of Program, for future reference. That means a 1kg pig gets .3 ml

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:25 pm


So you are saying one 270mg packet is 3cc (3ml) in volume?
How many pounds of cat does one 270mg packet treat?

Charybdis

Post   » Sat Oct 25, 2003 9:52 pm


Yes one 270mg packet has a little bit more than 3ml but we just rounded down to simplify things. It says that one packet does 11-20 pounds of cat. That's not helpful at all.

We withdrew all of the Program into a 3ml syringe and just worked from there. We filled each small (1ml) syringe with the correct dosage by weight and then filled the rest of the syringe with Flax Oil.

Hopefully this will make it easier for the next person looking for a dosage of Program, because the packets do not say how many ml they contain.

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