But today we are back to handfeeding 2x a day since her weight dropped again and she is crying more.
I don't really know where to go from here or what to do. She's active and happy otherwise. I don't know what kind of pain she's having, if it's really bad or kind of bad. I don't think I should put her to sleep because she *is* normal otherwise, but is keeping her in pain not fair? I don't know. The handfeeding - while inconvenient - isn't really my issue. It's the crying.
I don't want to keep her on Metacam long term so she's not on that. I tried the Shillintong for one day - but could barely get it into her. She does NOT like it, and I can't blame her, it smells (and probably tastes) nasty. I squirt it into her mouth but she'll dribble it out and make a huge fuss. I might try it again tonight if she'll even take it, but I don't know if it would help.
She's not getting any peppers or carrots, which are her favorite, but that seems to not matter. Not sure what my options are.
Suggestions? I'm all out of ideas or options.
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I don't remember if she had kidney testing. On the ultrasound it showed past infection. Maybe that's happening again. Would blood work show kidney infection? I just want to get the right tests tomorrow.
She's lively and everything - acting normal with eating hay and bopping around, but I know I can't let her weight drop to nothing, and I don't want her to be in pain.
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I *think* bloodwork will show kidney problems. IIRC they have to be fairly severe before the parameters will be affected. White blood cell counts in general will also indicate an infection (somewhere) -- again, IIRC. I am not a vet, nor tech.
So next Tuesday we're shaving the belly again just to ultrasound the kidney/bladder area to see if anything else shows and Dr. D is going to flush the crystals out.
And of course she mentioned this happens by giving calcium-rich foods. Okay. So I looked at the Ca/Ph ratio chart here. I can't feed romaine because it tends to give my girls sludge. So I have been feeding (their whole lives mind you - 2 years nearly) green and red leaf lettuce. Henry also likes dill a lot. Both of these seem high on the chart, which is bad I guess. I stopped giving treats to Henry because I thought carrots, peppers, tomatoes would make her worse. But maybe those things balanced out the high ratio of the lettuce and dill. Am I totally doing this wrong? It does seem that since I've cut out the "treats" she's been grumpier. But maybe that's just coincidence too.
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It truly is always something with these guys, though, and as another member put it, "...and nothing is ever simple." I'll drink to that.
Give Henry a gentle hug for me.
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If they were calcium carbonate, you may have to fiddle around with the ratios. Looseleaf lettuce has a moderate amount of calcium and a slightly high ratio, though nothing to worry about. Dill has a lot of calcium and a high ratio, so perhaps it would be good to try to cut down on her calcium without lowering the ratio below 1.5:1.
Some moderate to low calcium veggies in the ideal range, that my pigs like, are:
Chicory (curly endive)
Boston or Bibb lettuce
Some moderate to low calcium veggies and fruits a little below the ideal range, that can be fed sparingly along with the looseleaf or dill, are:
Pink grapefruit (I think momof911kids's pig Rayna is the world's biggest fan of pink grapefruit)
Bell pepper (tiny pieces)
Download the Ca:P calculator if you haven't already, and keep your scale on your counter to weigh veggies!
So, some menus that you might come up with are:
100g red or green leaf lettuce
for a ratio of 1.89, with 122.0mg of calcium.
Or here's another one I just came up with:
60g red bell pepper
fo a ratio of 1.88 with 125.0 mg of calcium.
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green leaf lettuce
red leaf lettuce
That's pretty much it. I'll occasionally add a little grape tomato, and that seems well tolerated. Sometimes a little corn husk. Zero fruit. Zero romaine.
Can't remember...what pellet are your pigs on?