Sebastian Thread

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sef1268

Post   » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:57 pm


No kidding, you did.

Do you recall if this tool is pretty large, or is it small? The ones I'm finding seem pretty hefty -- 10" long! That doesn't sound right.

I'm wondering if it would be safer to use a Dremel and a diamond rotary wheel to cut it.

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Post   » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:15 pm


I would say it seemd to be about 6 - 10" long. I don't think you need to be concerned about the length though. The part that goes in the mouth and over the teeth works perfectly.

I wouldn't allow a dremel to be used...too much vibration and a quick, clean cut is the way to go.

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Post   » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:19 pm


I don't know the name of the tool so I won't be any help there but my vet uses a tool that works like a dremel but is made for this kind of thing. It's smaller and better quality than the dremel but has diamond tipped attachments and is controlled with a foot pedal instead of the thumb thing on the dremel. I've seen her use it to trim my pigs teeth and it worked great, it was fast and operated very smoothly.

The idea of using clippers on their teeth makes MY teeth hurt!

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Post   » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:34 pm


"The idea of using clippers on their teeth makes MY teeth hurt!"

I am the one who holds Elsie's mouth open for the procedure and I can assure you it is quick and painless. One or two snips and it's over.

She can't be on her back so I bring the Super Pet Chair with me and we prop her up in it so that she is reclining, with the back of the chair up against a wall.

I hold her lips down and away from her teeth while the vet positions the tool. Once we are satisfied of how much to cut...snip! It's over.

I always practice the reclining position with my pigs and looking at their teeth so that if they ever need to go to the vet they will be used to that.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:08 pm


It would be cool if you could get an assistant to take a couple of pics of you holding Elsie and the vet clipping the teeth. And maybe a pic of the clipper for Sef?

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sef1268

Post   » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:19 pm


That would be great! Last week when the vet filed the tooth, it took SIX hands to hold him -- vet, vet tech and receptionist. Yikes. I do better restraining him myself when I file. I'd love to see the tool, too, and how it's used.

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Post   » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:04 am


I'll see what I can do next time we go which may be next week or the week after.

pinta

Post   » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:46 pm


Definitely needs trimming and it does appear to be overcompensating which would make me wonder if there is a problem at the base of the tooth. How is his breath? The fact the broken tooth is taking so long to grow but is visible makes me suspect that it is fractured vertically and continually breaking off. Vertical fractures can definitely lead to infections. I'd suggest a closer look at the xray. Are they dental xrays? The sunken eye might have been an early indication of a tooth problem.

The tooth needs to be trimmed to the length it would normally be. I believe Dr. Legendre files the teeth down with a dremel(?).

If the molars are fine and he is chewing normally and his jaw is in alignment, I don't think a Chin-Sling would help. The Chin-Sling concentrates gentle pressure at the back of the jaw forcing molars into position and contact. If he isn't self-grinding the incisor because he doesn't have enough jaw strength, then the chin-Sling could help.

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sef1268

Post   » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:55 pm


There is no mouth odor. I keep looking at the incoming tooth, and it isn't growing. Vet said the tooth had been discolored when I brought him in initially to treat for stroke/autoimmune issue, and it didn't surprise her that it broke off. She stated that the new growth (what there is of it) appears healthy and there is no infection or inflammation, although there was a little bit of redness when it first happened -- hence the round of Baytril.

Interestingly, the missing tooth is not on the side with the sunken eye.

I still wonder if the Prednisone caused just enough bone density loss to bring this about. Bassy will be 4 years old in October.

Do you know what kind of cutter attachment (diameter) works best for the job?

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sef1268

Post   » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:36 pm


I did find this photograph of rabbit incisors being trimmed using a Dremel, but the attachment is referred to only as a "rotary tool disc" without specifying if it's a diamond cut-off wheel or just a plain disc, or what the diameter is.

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Does anyone know what works best? Would a dental burr be even better?

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:23 am


Dremel tools also have a grinder -- various grits. That cutter looks awful and it also looks like the rabbit's teeth are going to be cut too short (if they're anything like guinea pigs).

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rshevin

Post   » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:29 am


OWE!

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dgarriques
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Post   » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:41 am


My Vet used a clipper type of tool on Rosey, I did it also at home before and then worried I was not doing it right. I let them get longer than I cared to trim I guess.

GP Lover
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Post   » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:48 am


That pic is horrible to look at.

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somechick

Post   » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:11 am


I second that. Scary.

I know nothing about teeth trimming, but it would be great to have pics of what works. GP Lover is a pro at this!

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sef1268

Post   » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:33 am


Well I was more interested in the tool, but now that you mention it, it looks like the vet is trimming all the way down to the friggin gumline almost. Oy.

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sef1268

Post   » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:32 am


Took Sebastian in on Monday for another set of xrays and to have his remaining lower incisor filed again (seems to be wearing okay, but our vet wanted to check for any sharp edges).

In the process of handling him during the xrays, the vet tech noticed a lump on Bassy's upper leg/lower thigh. After the rad was taken, Dr. M decided to do a fine needle aspiration on it to see what it was. As she did so, the lump suddenly started oozing dried pus. She ended up squeezing out what I'd estimate to be around 3ml of dry, stringy gray pus. Even the vet tech said, "Eww!"

Dr. M suggested we get Sebastian back on Baytril (well tolerated) for 7 days, and told me to flush it initially w/ peroxide, then flush every day for several days after that with plain saline -- which I did.

This morning I noticed that the lump has filled up again. I didn't think to read the GL section on lumps until just now, and noticed that the recommendation is to keep the lump open, flush with Betadine, and squeeze out any pus. Since the lump has closed up again, will warm soaking be enough to open it again, or should I aspirate it?

I'm assuming, from what I read on lumps, that it's an abscess-? It's somewhat hard and skin-colored. As of this morning, it's slightly smaller than a marble and does seem to bother him when I touch it.

Thanks.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:36 am


From your description, I was thinking sebum (sebaceous cyst) but the fact that it filled up again so quickly would seem to indicate it's infected and an abscess. Yes, I'd try to soak it first to open it up. And try to flush it.

It's also possible to have an infected sebaceous cyst.

You could also flush with warm saline solution (I think Josephine likes this better).

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sef1268

Post   » Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:58 pm


Thanks. Well, soaking doesn't seem to do anything except give him a wet leg. Seemed less tender to the touch this evening, though. Maybe because of the Baytril? I can't really see the opening on this lump now, and was afraid to try lancing it.

My vet tried to call me earlier today but missed me. I'm hoping to sync up with her first thing in the morning. The vet tech said we may need to put a small tube in to keep it draining. How in the heck do you do this on a guinea pig without them biting on it or pulling it out?

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:47 pm


I guess your vet will have to figure that one out.

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