- Let Sleeping Pigs Lie
For what it's worth: my Ginny developed a UTI while taking Baytril for a URI. I guess unusual things can happen when the immune system is compromised.
I'm sending hugs and healing thoughts. You and your husband have good hearts.
tracis -- that's what I kept thinking this morning, "How could he develop an infection when he's already on antibiotics?" But you are right; compromised immune system can cause funky things.
Ugh. I just hope this is something that can be cleared up with meds.
- We miss our sweet Oreo
BTW, How do you like the 25s? I am using 23s now, but was told the 25s were going to take forever. Has that been your experience?
I did two subcues with the 25g last night -- first one was 20cc's, and then when I saw the blood in his urine, I gave him an extra 10cc's. Getting him to hold still is impossible, but the stick itself is not bad at all (I swear, I could poke a Q-tip at him and he'd scream bloody murder). I had Critical Care ready the first time; used my left hand to give the subcue, with the right hand feeding the CC. He didn't notice it a bit, and it took maybe a minute.
Second time, I don't know if I didn't have the fluid warmed properly or what, but he was fussier with it and wouldn't hold still once it was in. Maybe I didn't have it in straight...it's so hard to see with his dark skin and hair (I'm almost tempted to shave a few "target" spots, so I can see what the heck I'm doing).
With the 23-gauge, it is really only slightly faster. I honestly didn't think it was bad at all with the 25g, especially if you have something to occupy them, like a piece of lettuce. It goes by quickly if they're eating something vs. just standing there.
- I GAVE, dammit!
Be careful about doing 30ccs of subcue fluid at a time - too much fluid can be dangerous. I don't do more than 20ccs at one time, although I've given 20ccs twice daily for a week or more (for a sick pig).
I'm so sorry you're seeing blood again.
- You can quote me
My old vets have told me two things: one, shave whatever you need to shave so you can see what you're doing. The hair grows back; and, two, only ER vets should push as much as 50-60 cc's at one subcue, and that for a severely dehydrated animal. Amy, if Oreo is okay with it, I'd certainly not tell you to give her less. My comment here is for general reference.
I have 3 pigs I have to subcue today. I made a little polar fleece sling-like thing to hold them a bit for me. I need to do these things without help and each of my pigs reacts differently. With this thing I made, their legs stick through holes in the polar fleece. If they start to get squirmy, I lift the piggy up with the fleece that's around the shoulders. And they don't get hurt if they really struggle. They eventually slip out, but it really slows them down without stressing them, or me, out.
Good luck to you Sebastian.
Gave Sebastian a dose of Metacam this evening, so we'll see if it makes a difference. I never heard back from the vet today, unless he left me a message after I left work. That reminds me...I need to log off AOL and check my messages.
Zoe, any chance you could post a picture of your invention? :)
It's basically an oblong piece of thin polar fleece with slits cut where the legs go through. I hold it with a clip around the haunches. Then around the shoulder, I cut the cloth into a couple of strips that I can grasp. The back end of the polar fleece is pretty long. I tied it to the chair to hold it steady while the pig is in my lap. I push the cloth aside where I do the subcue part.
My sister is super busy, but I really need to get a picture of it. It is SO helpful. She's my photographer.