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I wait until it's 'baby bottle warm.'
I give 20ccs, and no more than 30, when I give subcues.
Yes, I've had a pig shake the needle out. I hold the needle in with one hand and keep the pig in a cuddle cup so movement is restricted.
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I used to warm up the filled syringe (no needle) in the microwave for about 15 seconds, then shake to make sure the warm water was equally disbursed. Sometimes, I'd let it sit for another few minutes, if it needed to cool off. I assume this worked ok, because after the first time, she never fussed too much again (except when the needle was first inserted). There were a few occasions when she'd start to move around and the needle feel out. Like Mum, I tried to hold it in place with one hand.
Mum -- so, if you restrict mobility, what is the advantage of the infusion set for you? (I don't mean that to sound sarcastic in any way; just trying to figure out what way will work best for Zachary...butterfly or just a small gauge needle on a syringe).
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I just put a finger over the needle to make sure it doesn't fall out - and to keep it the right way up.
So, I have one hand on the pig's back, with a finger over the needle, and the other hand presses down on the syringe. The pig can certainly move around and therefore doesn't feel totally restricted.
I ruined two sets this morning (one wasn't in properly; the second time I managed to jab my finger with it), and had to give up because I'm running too low on them. Argh.
Does anyone know if they make a 28-gauge butterfly set? I know it would take longer to administer, but after getting jabbed with the 25-gauge this morning, I know they can still hurt.
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Mistress™ does SubQ a lot when dealing with wildlife, and every situation is unique. Just last night she broke a 22 gauge trying to give Bianca her SubQ, and Bianca also bled more than any piggie we have had to give injections to before.
I swear that piggie has Squirrel Skin. It was next to impossible to get that needle in there.
Squirrels, btw, have amazingly tough skin, and will turn a 20 gauge needle just about every time you try it.
And don't feel bad about injecting yourself. It happens here on a regular basis.
(You think piggies are tough, try a 20 pound ~very~ angry raccoon, who has opposable thumbs and a serious attitude!)
Does anyone know why some sets have a "safety clip" on them? Is that to cover the needle for disposal? It's a white clip that slides up and down the tubing, and looks like it can be clipped right over the top of the butterfly needle (but not sure why).
Another dumb question -- is there is a certain time that subcues are better administered than others? For instance, is there any reason why it can't be given in late evening? (right before bedtime). I could have sworn my vet said not to give fluids too late in the evening, but can't remember what the reason was. Does that sound right? (maybe I misunderstood?)
I would have thought this would get easier, but...no.
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If it's what I'm thinking it is, you can use it to pinch the tube and stop the flow of fluid. That is, if you have an infusion set on a stand, with a (human) patient on IV, you can snap the narrow end of the slit in the middle of the white thing over the fluid tubing. Dispensing to the lower part of the set and thus into the patient immediately stops.
Talishan, does that look like the type you're thinking of? [ETA: after reading the online description, it sounds like the white thing is supposed to somehow slip over the needle as you withdraw it from the vein-?]
Another dumb question. Does it matter if the needle doesn't go all the way in? There are times when I have it in, but because Zachary was moving around, I didn't get the needle all the way "pushed in" (up to the butterfly part). In fact, most times I don't get the entire needle in. It doesn't seem to leak out, but I just wondered if it matters if part of the needle is sticking out when you give fluids-?
Locally, I'm paying $1.43 each for the Unolok's, and $1.00 each for regular sets from the vet.
Anyone find any better pricing?
Has anyone here ever used a 27-gauge infusion set? They do exist. Hard to find, but there are two manufaturers that make them: Terumo (good luck reaching them directly) and Excel. I contacted Excel and they are going to send my vet's office a few samples for me to try. They might be too small, but I'd like to at least give them a try (since Zachary is having to have subcues twice a day, probably for the rest of his life).
Okay, I'll let someone else talk now.
Guess there's only one way to find out.
Sorry if I'm asking too many questions. My comfort level with subcues just isn't "there" yet.
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