HELP ME!- all six of them have this!

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cutemomomi
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Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:13 pm


Even if it is ringworms, like Mum said it will take a few days for the culture to confirm its presence.
I will start taking all the precautions now, like wear protective clothing and latex gloves when handling them and have the kids and other pets stay away to prevent contact.

klynne

Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:05 pm


Yes, ditch the wooden hidey. I'd also do a good cage cleaning, with a bleach solution--then rinse very well, and dry everything, before returning the pigs to the area.

Good luck with the vet visit.

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vanillapooh1979

Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:05 pm


The easiest way to determine if its ringworm at any stage is to shine a black light on it . If it glows a greenish yellow then it is indeed ringworm .

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Mum
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Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:36 pm


That test is not always accurate.

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1aicha
Ze French Piggies

Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:17 pm


Was at the vet earlier. she took a culture. she tried the glowing light but could not see anything but like she said, it is accurate only one time out of two.has to let it grow ( the culture) for ten days but already she said to act as if it would be ringworm. I passed the whole day, really, the whole day washing/bathing, creaming, disinfecting, trowing away wood toys, huts, branches...I am exhausted..still have some laundry to finish ( their towels and flee blankies)
I need a glass of wine..maybe two...........
Now, when should I begin that all cycle again? In a week?
monistat cream: the vet said to apply it once a day.
Vanille's infection is growing terribly rapidly. the whole top of her head is naked and bleeding now. I feel for her!!! She looks like a piggy who has been mistreated!!!!!!

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Mum
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Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:40 pm


Monistat does nothing for ringworm. You need the oral cat Program.

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1aicha
Ze French Piggies

Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:29 pm


Have to wait for the cultures for that. Vet doesn't want to give it in prevention.

cutemomomi
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Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:36 pm


It is not harmful if dosed on a "not ringworm infected" cavy I believe.
In the meantime, take all preventative measures for you, children and other pets in the house.
Try to make Vanille as comfy as possible, did she get some pain relief from the vet?
I have recently found out that pain can make them stop eating their pellets rather abruptly, and then they get weak really quick in this cold weather.

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Mum
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Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:45 pm


I would - at this stage suggest you call your vet and strongly urge her to reconsider.

Program is pretty benign. I'm betting she's considering a different medication.

It will take at least 10 days to get any results from the culture. Vets don't usually make you wait for the results given the issues associated with ringworm.

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1aicha
Ze French Piggies

Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:37 pm


No, vet did not give pain meds. What can I give her???
here I have tylenol, aspirins, ibuprofen.
She cried out in pain about half an hour ago. she scratched her head and opened her wounds bleeding a lot. I re-creamed her with monistat and put a bandage ( gauze) over it. she is trying to take it off but so far it holds on. This is a nightmare......

cutemomomi
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Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:39 pm


The only pain med I know is metacam...
I am so sorry, I know you must feel so helpless and frustrated now.

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1aicha
Ze French Piggies

Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:06 pm


and forget it, the tape doesn't hold..... I am at lost.

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Topaz

Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:15 pm


1aicha, I'm so sorry that things are progressing so quickly. Hopefully one of these treatments you have done, or will be doing, will do the trick very soon. Poor Caramel. And poor you.

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1aicha
Ze French Piggies

Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:33 pm


The others are afraid of her a bit because she is acting so strange, running around, then stopping then more running then resting. Poor poor lil thing!!

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:49 pm


Where is she injuring herself? Would a body bandage help?

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cutemomomi
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Post   » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:59 pm


Momo suggested that I put this information up since she is busy at the moment ...

The photos below and the photos in the albums linked to might be helpful for you. The top photo is of a guinea pig who had ringworm and one of the links is to her photo album. The photo with the crusting around her eyes are posted so that you can compare them to your own pig(s). (The green around her eye is dust from the hay.)

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The bottom photo shows a guinea pig with a bad case of mites. The other link is to a photo album that shows a guinea pig who had a bad case of mites. Again, so that you can compare your pigs to the photos of two different skin problems: mites and ringworm. (He had a lot of flakes and intense itching.)

Link to photo album featuring a guinea pig with ringworm:
http://imageevent.com/bizylizy/miscellaneous/rebaandrita

Link to another album featuring a guinea pig currently being treated for ringworm: http://imageevent.com/bizylizy/miscellaneous/jenni

Link to photos of guinea pig with mites: http://imageevent.com/bizylizy/miscellaneous/puamites

I've had three or four pigs come through who have exhibited visual symptoms of fungus behind the ears ... three with a faint red outline around the outer edge of the bald spot, two with dusting on the ear flap, and two with crusting.

I have not had to give anything for any itching nor have I had any pig seizure due to the pain or intense itchiness. If your pig(s) are presenting that symptom, I would check with your vet to see if something can be recommended to ease the pain and/or itching.

I have used a variety of tropical and oral treatments and it seems that what might work in one case does not always work in another. One constant that I use is Nizoral shampoo. I also like to use Lamisil liquid (I cannot find it any more but still have some). If it does turn out to be a fungal issue (which it might not), it is known to be very contagious (I ended up getting it myself a couple of years ago).

Probably if the pig were mine, I would remove everything that cannot be washed (mine just have a step stool in the cage at the moment). I would also most likely remove the pig who is suffering the most and place her in a cage near the others so that you can attend to her and so that she will not freak out the others.

A fungal problem can take a while to resolve compared to mites. Perhaps others have suggestions on how to make her more comfortable and treat her until the results come back. ~ Kathy

cutemomomi
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Post   » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:18 am


I forgot to mention something really important. If the pig who was cultured was bathed with an anti-fungal shampoo prior to getting a fungal culture, there is the high possibility that the result will be a false negative. However, it sounds like from your post that you bathed them afterwards. ~ Kathy

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Bethie
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Post   » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:19 am


Oh your poor babies! I hope you can find a treatment that gives some relief soon! I'm no expert, but that ringworm picture Kathy posted does look like what your pigs have.

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1aicha
Ze French Piggies

Post   » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:02 pm


Lynx: it wouldn't help, it is on the very top of her head and behind the ears.
I found a solution last night that did work: instead of wrapping the wound, I wrapped her hind feet. So far so good. she is less active but she eats a bit. definitely on the down side though.
I go see the vet at 1H for pain killers. They were all out to farms this morn.

cutemomomi: Love your new avatar girl! Looking at the photos of ringworm and mites, definitely looking here like on the second picture.But I still wonder because ome open sores on these photos look like what Vanille has. None have anything around their eyes..so far. cross your fingers, your legs anything!!!
But everyone is scratching, itching and making things worse. Looks ike they are loosing their fur at these spots too but only there. I examined the backs the bellies, paws, nooks and cranies: so far nothing but top of heads and behind ears. IS IT A GOOD SIGN?
Now the best one is Nougat who is in another cage and seems to have nothing but a sore spot.

One thing: I don,t have an extra cage to isolate Vanille so, how could I make a low plastic bac into a suitable *cage* till this passes? Any other idea?


I wish I had the test result but it is going a long wait..9 days to go now...

Bethie: Thank you! I am so glad to have your support and evryone else too.
it gives me also informations and I can guide myself to giving good treatment to my poor piggies. I tell you, this thing developped so quick, t was like one day everyone was fine and the next BOUM, all were sick!

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1aicha
Ze French Piggies

Post   » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:55 pm


back from the vet ( it's a long way from here, had to wait...)
My vet saw the pictures I took from Vanille today and she immediately phoned an exotic vet in Montreal. Showing the pictures, describing the symptoms, this vet is pretty sure it is mite related or at least parasite related. She agreed that it was a good thing to take a culture and see for ringworm but in her opinion, it is unlikely.
My vet gave me some chlorexcidine ( not sure of the spelling, sorry) to put over the wounds of the piggies as a pain reliever.
Exotic vet said the pigs should begin to feel better after their ivermectin in about 5 days, to continue local application of anti fungal cream (Monistat). And wait........

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