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"She also quickly looked at my other guinea pig Taz, I guess as a comparison and I brought up that he has this white mark on his eye that is growing. Apparently it is a calcium deposit, that can continue to grow and make it difficult for him to see out of that eye."
If you're interested, there are other members here that have guinea pigs with similar conditions:
- White spot in eye... calcium deposit?
Moe, a male, develops a "white fleck" in his eye. Description of Osseous Choriostoma.
- Lipid Deposit? In the eye?
Stan, a male, develops a white spot in the upper part of his eye.
- I GAVE, dammit!
The risks are greatly reduced with a good vet. If the pig had an abscess under that root, the tooth may have to be removed.I am not quite prepared to do that, as the risks are much higher of a guinea pig dying that way then when a dog or cat goes under anesthetic.
The only way to properly examine the molars is under light anesthetic. I wouldn't hesitate to do this given what you're dealing with, and as long as you have a good vet.
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Keep an eye on the top teeth, if they get too long your vet may need to trim them.
Has he had an x-ray?
I don't think vitamin C is a cureall but do make sure your guinea pig is getting at least 25mg/day.
I wouldn't increase the amount of calcium he's getting as it has the potential of adding another problem to an already existing one, e.g. bladder stones/teeth issues.
Good luck with your little one. You could go to the care guide above, print out the pages on teeth and take them with you when you talk to your vet.
He has not had any real lower incisiors for a couple of years, but the one side remains open as a small tiny tooth (smaller than a toothpic) will poke through every so often, and I have to trim it to keep it down to where it will not rub on anything when he eats, as it is painful.
There has been pus draining from this hole for at least a year. The guinea pig specialists had said there is nothing they could do for it that would not be a big risk. So I rinse it every day, he is on a high dose of Metacam for this and his elongated roots. He is also off and on Metronidazole (which makes no difference).
He now has a small swelling under his jaw (abscess). We went to the specialist yesterday to have his teeth trimmed under general anesthetic. They also did a whole body radiograph.
They found two things on x-ray: he has some calculi in his bladder, but in a strange position as they are located very far back. They also found what they believe is a abscess under his jaw, that may be affecting his jaw as well.
There options to me is to continue with status quo and add on some TMS antibiotic for a month, and up his Metacam dose. They suggested that I could have surgery done to explore the area under his jaw, and possibly need some of his jaw amputated. They have left it up to me on what to do. I believe, although they didn't say it, is because he may not make it through the surgery.
My first issue is that he cant be on TMS or any antibiotic besides Metronidazole without getting severe diarrhea and he stops eating.
Also, I'm not sure if anybody here would remember, but back in June I brought in my guinea pig Taz to have a bladder stone removed. He died the next day in my arms, as I believe he had a stroke. I feel guilty for having the surgery done, as he was doing ok on Metacam and he could of lived longer had I not had the surgery done. But it is hard to judge quality over quantity of life with a guinea pig as they don't show their discomfort well.
So any suggestions to any of this would help me make the decision. Today Coco is doing great, I increased his Metacam dose and he is eating like a champ and seems very happy.
Also does anybody know of any natural remedies to help with the abscess. Like can I flush the area with apple cider vinegar, as he may swallow some if it if I do that.
I am going to bring him to work with me all week, and do laser therapy to the area as well.
What would you do?
2/25/2012, 11:23 am
Marjorie, I’m sorry Coco has an abscess. Take a look at the 2 links below for some advice and an idea on what is involved with dental or jaw abscesses. I won’t sugar coat it, it’s a long, drawn out process requiring very diligent care on your part and a really good experienced exotic vet. In my Timmy’s case, he is on life long AB’s and pain killers to keep the abscess under control since he won't be having anymore surgeries (he's already had 13 for this abscess). If for some reason we slack off on his twice daily jaw cleaning or happen to give his AB late, the abscess starts getting bigger within 24 hours.
He is now 9 ½ years old and most days he’s a very happy and comfortable little old man. He also has an enlarged heart and arthritis in his hips. To be totally honest, the success of the after-care is based on 3 things: your diligent care, your vets experience and Coco’s personality.
Take a look at my Timmy’s thread starting on page 2: http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33253&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
Also take a look at BamBam’s thread about Pudding. http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=56703&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Good luck with Coco, no matter what you decide to do. Keep us updated.
Because bone and roots are involved, it is vital to give an AB for a minimum of 3 months. Be sure and have the pus cultured to be certain you are giving the correct AB. Have the vet check to make sure the pus isn’t draining in Coco’s dewlap, which is the usual escape route for the pus. The length of the AB is important because their mouth isn’t exactly clean all the time.
If the abscess is caused by an infected root, there is a good chance the tooth can be removed. Timmy had 2 teeth removed and has no problems with eating. He had 1 bottom incisor and 1 bottom molar removed. He also had 3 holes drilled into his jaw bone so the vet could access the infected roots and clean everything out. It’s important that if you have the tooth removed, that the root is also removed or the problem will continue and spread. He did have to have regular molar trims for approx 1 year until his jaw adjusted itself to the new chewing ways. Now he only needs his incisors trimmed every 3-4 months, which he doesn’t need sedation for.
Besides Timmy being on life long AB’s and pain meds, we still wash his neck and jaw areas twice daily just to make sure the area keeps as clean as possible – as well as rinsing his mouth twice daily by syringing him plain water.
His other bottom incisor fell out a long time a ago as well and it has closed fine, no issues. He eats like a champ without any bottom incisors.
Whats his dewlap?
I'm really thinking that maybe I should do the surgery. I am going to try him on TMS for a month and see how this works for him, but ultimately I think he needs that tooth removed in order for all of this to heal.
I don't have high hopes for trying him on this antibiotic as he always has reactions to antibiotics and ends up worse then when he started. So I will try it for a couple of days and see how it goes. Wish him luck!
If there is a constant hole, this likely is the issue then since it will always have crud in it from eating hay, veggies, pellets etc. can you possibly take a photo of his mouth and post it?
If he were my pig, and in good general health, I would have the tooth removed. If there is constantly a hole in his mouth, this issue won’t clear up.
Thanks again for all your advice. I will keep you updated on his progress.