Mr. Piggy Hooting

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Bethie
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Post   » Tue May 06, 2008 1:51 pm


I envision a little treadmill with a carrot at the end. Mr. Piggy with a little sweatband on trotting away while hooked up the heart monitors. I hope he does well and/or gets better.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Tue May 06, 2008 6:20 pm


*sigh* Mr. Piggy is not on any meds right now. I don't know if I should be happy or frustrated.

Lungs are clear. She did an x-ray that shows no fluid around the lungs, or in them. The heart, she said, looks ok. I did not get a copy of these x-rays like I did with Ozzy and forgot to ask for it.

She said he is overweight and would like to see him get down to around 1300 gms. He is at 1440 now.

For now, I am to keep an eye (ear) on him and cut back on the pellets. I will have to give him more floor time too. Perhaps he needs a baby brother as well!

Bethie, I laughed out loud when I read your post! He actually does need a little piggy treadmill it seems!

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Tue May 06, 2008 6:37 pm


How annoying. She won't give you a trial of lotensin?

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Tue May 06, 2008 6:48 pm


She didn't see the need for it right now. I wish I had gotten the x-rays. Maybe if I call her tomorrow I can get a copy on a CD and post it.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Tue May 06, 2008 7:13 pm


I'm sorry StF. This is terribly frustrating for you. Hopefully you can get a copy of the x-ray.

cutemomomi
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Post   » Tue May 06, 2008 8:37 pm


Fingers and paws crossed on getting yourself a copy tomorrow!

EllieMom

Post   » Tue May 06, 2008 10:43 pm


I do wish vets would take concerned and informed caretakers more seriously than they do. You know Mr. Piggy better than anyone else does and can see the subtle things that a 15-minute check, even one by a competent doctor, will miss. Now, back on the treadmill, little guy!

Talishan
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Post   » Wed May 07, 2008 9:50 pm


The extraordinarily frustrating thing about this is that this is a vet that takes concerned, knowledgeable, educated and informed caretakers seriously. She knows about GL and respects our knowledge, history, and extensive medical, if anecdotal, experience.

Agh.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 10:46 am


He was doing it faintly and sporadically this morning. I tried to catch it on video (for the sound!). Pump up the volume because it's hard to hear and about 13 seconds into the video.
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This sound on Monday was MUCH louder and kept on for about 5-10 minutes. I wish I'd been alert enough to get the camera out that day.

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 10:51 am


Yes, that's clearly hooting. Can you show this to your vet?

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 11:13 am


Poor guy.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 11:45 am


Poor baby, definitely hooting. It would be great if there were some way to let your vet hear/see this video.

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Leb
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Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 11:56 am


Can I just say one thing. For any person or animal with heart disease an enlarged heart is only one type of heart disease. You can have several other types of heart disease where the heart isn't enlarged at all.

My pig has a deformed valve which was only identified by the second sonogram. It is called Mitral Valve Regurgitation, he doesn't have an enlarged heart at all.

If the hooting doesn't stop a heart mediciation trial wouldn't hurt him. Or try a sonogram instead of an x-ray.

EllieMom

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 11:58 am


Thank you and Mr. P for posting the video with sound. I was trying to imagine what hooting sounded like before. I'm not sure I would have recognized it. Now that I hear Mr. Piggy, it makes sense. Hopefully, you can get him treated so that you'll never have to hear it again.

cutemomomi
Obey My Authority

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 12:31 pm


So that is what hooting sounds like...?!?
Thank you for posting the video, I always have a hard time imagining what hooting really sounds like.

slavetofuzzy
4 the Good of all Pigs

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 3:29 pm


It was even more clear on Monday. I have my camera at the ready for each episode, which have clearly been happening in the mornings.

Yes, Mum, I can bring the camera in to the vet. I need to make sure, though, that I can get the volume up high enough.

Oh, and Leb, I don't think my vet has sonogram equipment. I'll probably have to take a trip to UGA for that. Unless GVS has the means to do it. They did an MRI on my dog so maybe they have ultrasound equipment too.

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Leb
Supporter in '08

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 3:35 pm


In order for me to get the sonogram some guy (Dr.?) came to the Vet's office with his piece of quipment and did the test. I guess they "contracted out the job"? Maybe you can inquire?

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 3:38 pm


Leb-Ultrasounds are very expensive. How much did you pay for the sonogram? What meds is your little heart pig on?

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 5:01 pm


Hooting is typical in the morning. I can only assume the fluid builds up ovenight.

I hope the video is enough to convince the vet to do a trial of lotensin.

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Thu May 08, 2008 6:34 pm


"I'll probably have to take a trip to UGA for that."

Nunh-unh. Bells Ferry, For Pets' Sake (Dr. Hutcheson), and All Creatures (the Akins' practice) all have ultrasound. Now, the dicey part is finding someone to *interpret* a cardiac ultrasound on a guinea pig correctly. Bells Ferry had an exotic cardiac u/s specialist a few years back. He went to Montana. :-(

GVS doesn't touch exotics, which is a crying shame given the equipment and expertise they have.

If push comes to shove, I'll split my benazepril with you. The compounder makes 40 or 50 mL each month, and I never use it all. The problem is I don't know if Dr. A. would be convinced -- or irritated -- by that if it turns out to help him.

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