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becksters
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Post   » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:34 pm


Try grinding it up and sprinkling on a fav veggie.

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Quinc-Emma

Post   » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:43 pm


Grinding then up and sprinkling them on peppers & carrots usually work. I do that for my girls and they love their "special" veggies.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:00 pm


Thanks for the tips. Only problem is, the main reason why they need vit. c is that I'm not giving them any fruits or veggies while we're trying to "improve" Ellie's soft poops.

Bookfan
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Post   » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:48 pm


I know there's a thread on Vit. C tabs, but I thought I'd continue here. Our vet suggested grinding it up and mixing it with a bit of applesauce or pumpkin. We tried applesauce, and as others have noted, Elle now likes the tablets "straight up". Celia still won't eat them.

Finished the probiotic, Elle still has poop problem. The vet wants us to keep her on hay & pellets & nothing else until we get her checked again in Oct.

We did get a scale and they look sooo cute in it!!

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:13 pm


Good news.

Bookfan
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Post   » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:39 pm


This thread should have a different name. I should have started a new one when we got Elle.

Elle's poop problem has gotten worse. Her poops are sometimes toothpaste consistency and unformed. She's been getting nothing but hay & pellets for weeks. And a vitamin C tablet.

We went to the vet on Tues. and Elle did something that she just recently started. She rises up on her feet and arches her back, makes a little hiccup sound, and then poops these unformed piles. It's like she's straining. She doesn't do it all the time.

The vet collected a sizable sample to test, but it was negative. We're supposed to stick with timothy hay & pellets and measure the pellets for consistency from day to day. I got some blue grass hay, but I'm going to stop that for now.

The vet palpated Ellie's abdomen and didn't think there was a stone problem because there was no tenderness in that area at all. She said she'd post on Vet Web and had someone she wanted to call at Colorado State, but he's out of town this week.

I'm starting to worry. Otherwise, she's happy, lively and eats regularly.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:45 pm


Sorry for the problems you're having but DO NOT stop the hay. It is one of the most important things for piggys to eat as it helps keep their motility going.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:48 pm


Oh, I neglected to say she's still getting timothy hay. I know that's really important.

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Bugs Mom

Post   » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:55 pm


Phew! Your original comment kinda surprised me 'cause I thought you knew better : )

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:58 pm


Sorry. :} Didn't mean to alarm you.

Bookfan
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Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:08 am


Ellie seems worse. Some days she's better, but other days she's worse than she was a week ago. The vet gave us more propulsid and some metacam two weeks ago. She's almost done with the propulsid.

She frequently makes sounds like she's in pain when she poops and arches her back. This is what's getting worse.

Does anyone have any ideas? The vet wants us to put her in a separate cage for a few days so we can see how much she's eating and wants to hear back on Wed.

We don't know what to do and we're afraid we'll lose her. The vet doesn't know what's wrong.

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salana
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Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:10 am


Have you tried supplementing with probiotics? Jackie had a hard time recovering from gastroenteritis and acidophilus tablets twice a day helped firm up his poops.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:33 am


She went through a course of probiotics a few weeks ago. What was the gastroenteritis like and what caused it?

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:15 am


I forget, you've had an xray?

Bookfan
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Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:44 am


No xray. The vet hasn't mentioned it. What's the best way to nudge a vet to do more testing without alienating her?

She is still trying to get in touch with someone at Colorado State who she thinks might have ideas. Hasn't connected with him yet.

Ellie is acting happy & normal and eats & drinks well, for what it's worth.

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salana
GL is Just Peachy

Post   » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:18 pm


Jackie had gooey, squishy poop slime, that smelled bad. He didn't do well with a course of Baytril for a URI.

Bookfan
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Post   » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:51 pm


Update on Elle:
We divided the cage so the pigs are separated. The vet wants to know how much Elle is eating. She eats the 1/4 c. Oxbow tim. pellets within 12 hours. She eats her hay well. She drinks lots of water. All more than Celia. But Celia's more filled out.

We're supposed to talk to the vet on Monday & maybe get an xray. We're also supposed to look for blood in the urine.

What the vet doesn't understand is that the poop problem gets better & worse. This is still happening. She'll be better for a day or two and then back to the same old problem. She said once a problem's there it usually either gets worse or better, not both.

I have seen other thread(s), though, where pigs have an intermitant problem with soft poops.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:55 pm


Ellie update. Last week the vet did an xray and Elle looked fine except for gas (not bloat) - no stones, ovaries looked normal, etc. Her pee isn't discolored.

The vet talked to a specialist at Colorado State - don't know what he said, but we're trying bactrim. No change so far. Keeping everything else the same - timothy hay & oxbow pellets & vit. C tabs, no veggies.

I've already posted this on BrendaB's thread, but I wanted it here for continuity.

Bookfan
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Post   » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:17 pm


No results from the bactrim. I decided to try her on kleenmama's pellets since we're out of Oxbow and have a bag of kleenmama's. This was about a week ago. I can't verify the timing, but it seemed like her problems got worse about the time we started her on Oxbow and I've wondered if there's something in there she's sensitive to.

Within the day her poops were better, soft but formed and have remained that way. We'll continue with just this change for a while. Only problem is she still sometimes makes pain noises when she poops.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:05 pm


OK. The vet just called and I want to post this for the record. She took a while to call back because she was reviewing Elle's records & doing some more research. Having my posts on this thread also helped because I could give her dates for when Elle got worse, how she was when we first got her, what we were feeding her, etc.

We're going to give Elle flagyl. As some of you already know, it works on parasites, "modulates" gut bacteria, and has some anti-inflammatory properties. She said most pigs don't like it, but she thinks Elle has to have a trial of it at this point. She's getting banana flavor.

Elle had some very soft poops yesterday so I don't think pellet brand is relevant (given that it's a quality pellet). She even went to kleenmama's site and was impressed (not Elle, the vet). We're going to try a few days back on Oxbow, since she eats it better, and see if she can gain some weight. If she doesn't, we'll do critical care.

I asked about IBD (inflammatory bowel disease) and IBS (irritable bowel symdrome), She said there are no documented cases in the literature, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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