Which AB for emaciated pig?

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pinta

Post   » Wed Apr 30, 2003 6:30 pm


Are you sure his molars were planed correctly?

He could have lost muscle tone. Can he manage to chew better if You hold his jaws together gently, forcing contact?

HollyT
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Post   » Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:42 pm


Oh, poor humphrey. Dr. R knows to plane the teeth at 30 degrees so hopefully he did that. Would the chin sling help a pig with lost muscle tone? Mel and Pinta's theory makes sense.

pinta

Post   » Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:42 pm


The Chin-Sling was designed to compensate for lost muscle tone.

Charybdis

Post   » Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:01 pm


I read the page on that. Is the condition usually associated with age? He is one year.

Maybe I should wait one more week then, trying to exercise his jaw, and see if his chewing ability improves. During that time I will work on his family about getting him a follow-up appointment and perhaps further therapy.

This is taking its toll on me. I have been hand feeding him every 3 hours for 2 weeks yet still have no rights to determine the course of his care. A fine mess I've gotten us into.

Charybdis

Post   » Tue May 06, 2003 5:45 pm


Here's all it took to finally get this guy eating hay. The pig on the right is Humphrey. The pig on the left is Sam, our resident Grandpa pig.

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HollyT
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Post   » Tue May 06, 2003 5:47 pm


You're kidding right?

Charybdis

Post   » Tue May 06, 2003 8:24 pm


No, I'm not. I was talking to Natalie on ym and she said that Humphrey started going downhill after his companion died. I did not know that he ever had a companion. By the time they got another pig, Humphrey was already not eating well.

So I threw Humphrey in with Sam and he started grooming the older pig and following him around. Next thing I knew they were munching hay together.

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melcvt00

Post   » Tue May 06, 2003 8:40 pm


Gotta love it. :)

huglover

Post   » Wed May 07, 2003 12:35 pm


Charybdis and everyone else, I have just sat and read all of this link through again, and Charybdis you have my greatest greatest admiration on how you have handled this situation, you really have been between the devil and hard place on this.

Your diplomacy skills are to be applauded and I am positive that without your intervention, and the advice given by all the other wonderful people within this thread he would have been dead by now.

I understand how difficult this must have been for you, I went through similar over a pig I was supposedly gifted, then all of sudden they wanted him back, I'll not name the pig here but save to say I have had him 7 yrs now, he will be 9 in July, the child was a spoilt brat, and the old scenario you dont know what you have lost til it has gone came into play, the family gifted him to me because the child would not care for it, then all of a sudden he promised to care for him, so can we have him back, short and sweet answer NO. I even said I would seem them in court first, considering I had spent a fair amount in vet bills and my time to sort out his health issues.

Had they pushed it, I would have lied, said he had died, and because it was something potentially infectious to my herd, he was cremated, no risk of exhumation then is there!

I am not concerned about the family's feelings I am sorry to say, my vote is with Humprey period, I am sure if he goes back to them, given their whacky view on vets and certain procedures, he will not survive very long, and it is unfair to expect you to up sticks and go and keep an eye on him.

I hope you can find a way to keep him with you, even spirit him away to a safehouse if need be, but whatever happens, I am so glad that there are people like you (and all of us here) in this world to care for these much maligned wonderful creatures.

Please keep us updated on Humphrey.

Charybdis

Post   » Wed May 07, 2003 1:17 pm


I wish I could find a way to keep him but that is not going to happen. We thought about the faking death angle but decided that it would not work because the family would want the body back (and plus Charandmin yelled at me).

The family is determined not to give him up and insistent that his condition was not their fault.

They are, however, willing to intergrate him with their other pig. I am going to build them a 2x6 with 2 lofts and re-introduce them (they had been living separately). I think that will make a big difference.

That's really all I can do aside from making him as healthy as I can before giving him back.

Charybdis

Post   » Thu May 08, 2003 3:23 am


Well this is a very manipulative little guy. I know that he can eat hay, have seen him do it, yet he will sit in the cage and lose 30-40 grams waiting for me to come feed him. And what's more, he wants to be fed from a syringe and not from a spoon. The little sh*t.

I am wondering if I should continue to hand-feed him at all, or only offer it on a spoon (as one further step towards getting him to eat without someone feeding him). I've already cut back on the hand feeding and spaced them out more.

He is not sick anymore, although he still is thin. I need to get him eating more hay and keeping his weight up on his own.

Should I pull the plug on the handfeedings?

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melcvt00

Post   » Thu May 08, 2003 8:02 am


Hmm. Maybe try putting the handfeeding stuff in a dish, stick the end of the syringe in it, and sort of "spoon" the stuff with the syringe, right above the dish. Maybe it will trick him.

Charybdis

Post   » Fri May 09, 2003 2:33 am


Attempted that. No dice. I decided he was working me pretty good, so I stopped hand feeding him for a little while, continuing to weigh him.

He is holding steady at 700 grams. Not as much as I'd like, but at least he's not losing weight.

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