Soft poop-please help

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Bethie
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Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:41 am


Well, Max has had days of nice poops, and then mush yesterday. I think he had too much green pepper. I hope you find what's up with Sierra. It's hard to have your thoughts about your piggies be worries instead of joys.

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Brenda B

Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:49 am


ok, perfect poops this morning again...this is the longest she has gone without mush since Sunday....

Dare I even think she may be ok?

Oh my do I love this pig....

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WEAVER
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Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:27 pm


Brenda, I have not forgotten about you, I am waiting for my vet to call me back :) They looked at her file real quick and said there was so many things they tried she could not make heads or tails of the vet's notes so the vet herself is going to return my call. Hopefully she can remember what her notes say. It has been about two years ago since I have gone through all of this with Sidney like you are your piggie.

If it is the piggie in your avator we are discussing, my Sidney even looks a lot like her.

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Brenda B

Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:42 pm


Yes, Weaver it is the pig in my avatar. I also posted some more photos of her (and my other 2) on Cavy Chat-title "photos of my herd" (not sure how to put in a link)

So, today she still has normal poops...this is really the longest she has gone without mush. I think that the key this time is the flagyl with the albon....she had 3 weeks on albon when I first got her and never cleared it up entirely.

I have been giving very small amounts of spring greens as her only veg source. Plus vit c and as much timothy hay as she can handle (got a huge bale from the local feed supply).

Any suggestions of other veggies for pigs with poop troubles would be helpful. She is begging me constantly. :)

She seems happier now too...comes to see me every time I go to the cage...

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Brenda B

Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:11 pm


darn it...it it is soft again...not really bad but not normal

:(

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:49 pm


I hope you come up with a combination that works. I hope the softness is nothing and they are better tomorrow.

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Brenda B

Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:29 pm


ok, so I read a thread about the Martinez pigs having giardia. This is a stretch, but this pig came from a shelter in Lancaster, CA and I got her from TBB. Perhaps she could be one of those pigs???

It seems like the flagyl is helping...could she have giardia. If so, would not my other 2 have it also since it is highly contagious?

Final question, how long do you treat a pig for giradia with flagyl? I go back to the vet after one week...should we keep her on for 1-2 more???

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:04 pm


Sorry I don't have answers to your questions. Good ones for the vet. Giardia may be one of those things that is hard to definitely diagnose (catch).

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WEAVER
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Post   » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:15 pm


Ok, I talked to my vet today and Sidney was on albon for a while, and that showed no improvement. Flagyl is what cured her and she was on it for ten days. She was also on a probotic during that time to help settle her stomach and try to keep her flora healthy.

Pigs that have soft stools, get messed up flora, especially if they are also on meds during that time. Make sure you religiously give a probotic during this time.

Only feed hay, pellets, and VERY limited greens. I would not feed any extras. I do recommend hand feeding critical care if you are currently not doing so.

The flagyl took sometime to work so be patient. Just make sure you keep her regular diet simple. Lots of hay!

I also wanted to add that whatever Sidney had (we never found out for sure), was contagious and she gave it to several other pigs that I had that she was housed with. They were cured in no time, but she took a while to get better. I would leave your piggie by herself and do strict quarentine to get to the bottom of this.

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Brenda B

Post   » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:24 am


Thanks Weaver!

I think that the flagyl is making a difference. She had some soft ones today but not near what they were. And they are now back to being good again. She has been on it since Sunday.

She has maintained her weight and is eating oxbow pellets, lots of fresh timothy hay and some orchard grass. I do not have any critical care...does she need it if she is eating well and staying at the same weight?

She actually climbed up into the hay rack tonight...has not done that in some time. She seems like she feels better. I will ask doc to give us enough flagyl to continue 10 days. I only got 7 last week.

I give her poop soup 2 hours after every dose of meds. Is that good enough or do you suggest another probiotic as well? I add vit c with the poop soup too.

I puller her out of the cage when she showed signs of illness...so far the other 2 have not. Not sure what this is nor an incubation period so keeping fingers crossed! :)

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Brenda B

Post   » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:27 am


I think she deserves a cuddle cup for her birthday...since we do not know when it is we made one up: New Years! Cassanova's is Valentines Day and Guinness' is St Patrick's Day. :)

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WEAVER
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Post   » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:38 am


I personally would give her the Cirtical Care if you can easily get it, and that also has a built in probiotic.

My vet had given me a probiotic to sprinkle on a leaf of lettuce right after she took her meds. It was in a powder form. Maybe you could ask your vet if they have anything like that..?

My vet said to try and get your pig to eat right after taking the meds because the medicine itself can also cause an upset stomach.

Hopefully she will continue to keep improving.

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Brenda B

Post   » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:50 am


I have acidophilis bifidus from the health food store...it has dextrose in it...is that ok?

I can get critical care tomorrow. I thought it would be bad to force feed if she was eating so I did not get any, but my vet carries it. He is only 20 minutes away.

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WEAVER
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Post   » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:53 am


You don't necessarily have to force feed the CC. I have several elderly pigs that eagerly eat it right off of the spoon. Sidney, even when her belly was upset, has always loved CC and just chowed on it. I don't believe in force feeding unless it is a last resort and the pig is not eatting at all. Critical Care though is more like a suppliment, you don't have to syringe feed it, just mix it up in a bowl and feed with a spoon.

All of my pigs prefer their CC to be slightly warmed up instead of room temperature.

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Brenda B

Post   » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:57 am


ah ha! That I did not know! I will serve up some warm CC for dessert tomorrow!

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mmercedesmom
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Post   » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:58 am


I have a couple of boars who eat their CC from a bowl! It does have to be the right mix of CC flavors and the right consistency, but they love it and beg for it every morning.

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rshevin

Post   » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:04 am


Oh I always serve it on a plate unless the animal is too sick to eat it that way. Piggy will eat it served any style (which is why his name is Piggy). Smudgie doesn't mind temperature but he loves it to be very watery and messy. He also dislikes getting his beard washed which is a problem but at least he has a good, healthy weight.

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mmercedesmom
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Post   » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:34 am


Same with Hamy, my Texel. Must have it sloppy, hates face washed, but only keeps weight on with daily bowl of CC. Wooly feels he must share, so I serve it in a low sided double cat dish so if they push each other away they each have a spot. ;-)

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Brenda B

Post   » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:16 pm


any recipes would be great...I tried it with Sierra today and she hated it. I force fed a bit as she seems to have taken a turn and her poops are very bad again. :(

Tracis
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Post   » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:38 pm


Sending good thoughs for Sierra, and I hope her day improves.

LINKS - Critical Care Recipes for Handfeeding

Hope this helps!

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