Pantufinha's Medical Thread

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C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:05 am


Best wishes to you and your little one. I hope she gets her teeth sorted out.

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daisymay
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Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:19 am


Are my vets unusal? As they stick tubes down piggies noses for them to breathe. They have done this to Jessie and Jasmine, I remember I freaked when Jessie sneezed a bit of blood. I thought this putting tubes down the nose was normal.
Sending hugs to you both, I know how scary and frusratating it can be, hanging in there.

pinta

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:48 am


Most vets don't do this as it is a fairly "new" procedure. Drt. Legendre has done the tube thru the nose thing.

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Regiane
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Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:34 pm


Some news:

Pantufinha still is not eating by herself, nothing. I'm handfeeding her.

My vet called me. He contacted Dr. Herbert, experienced odontologist from Odontovet (the one who knows Dr. Legendre). They discussed Pantufinha's case and Dr. Herbert said that the better is to make the procedure as soon as possible.

My vet said he personally had made this type of procedure just twice, and that he prefers that she makes the dental procedure at Odontovet, where they have specialists in this area and better equipment. He's passing her case to a vet called Elisangela Peres de Freitas.

I contacted her by phone and I feel confident. She looks experienced with guinea pigs.

The procedure will be made on Monday, 9AM, in Campinas, the neighbour city. (the vet is out of city now, that's why it will be on monday)

Until there, I have to continue to handfeed her, plus giving her analgesic once a day and adding probiotics on the mash she's eating by syringe. They explained that during the surgery the intestinal moviments are affected, and that's why is good to insire probiotics now.

I'm feeling a bit better know. I know she'll have to pass through this, but at least, no matter what happens, I know I'm giving her the best possible. My sweet girl.

Guinea Love

Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:31 pm


I am so sorry you and Pantufinha are going through this. I wish I had some advice to share but all I can offer is a little support. It is so hard to watch our little ones hurting. It is such a helpless and frightening feeling. Hang in there. You are doing everything you can do. I am sends lots of healing thoughts your way.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:33 pm


I know this is hard on you both. I hope things go well and that you can keep up her energy. Everything Guinea Love says, I second. We all hope for the best for Pantufinha.

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:30 pm


Ditto.

"They explained that during the surgery the intestinal moviments are affected ... "

Try to make sure they give you a mild motility agent (Reglan in the US, metoclopramide is the generic name) for you to use after her dental work if GI motility is a concern.

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Bytxlaura
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Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:44 am


Keeping you guys in my thoughts! Hang in there, big slippers!

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winniewai

Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:52 am


All the best, Regiane~~
Yes, u r doing the right thing n i think it's the best decision for your sweetie, so dun worry~

I'm so happy ur vet is a really good vet, she told you the truth and recommended another experienced vet, be honest, not so many vets in HK willing to do this, many vets here are not exotic vets but they treat guinea pigs as dogs or cats...

Except for the anesthesia risk, there should no wound in her mouth so she can recover well after the surgery, i believe..

Last time my vet told me she gave Shui Jai subq during the surgery, this may help him to recover better after anesthesia.

Talishan
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Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:15 am


Ditto Winniewai. This is called "perioperatively" -- i.e., during the operation. The pig is anaesthetized already, so fluids are easy to deliver. It can make a big difference.

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pigjes
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Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:06 am


Sending more good vibes to Pantufinha!

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daisymay
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Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:23 am


Sending hugs and healing vibes to you and Pantufinha. Will say a special prayer for you both on Monday. Just keep doing what you are doing and ask the vet for the cause as I feel Pantufinha is a little young to be having teeth problems.

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Princess Aurora

Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:35 pm


Regiane, I've just found and read this thread and I'm so sorry you and your sweet Pantufinha have to go through this. Reading your thread have made us both, me and my husband, to have a bitter déjà-vu feeling. We went through this the entire last year with our late Juanito... :-(

Anyway, we learnt the hard way about being creative when hand-feeding, so I wanted to give my 2 cents in this. With a kitchen device like this: http://tinyurl.com/6f9pmtv I used to make purée out of carrots, cucumbers, tomato and apple for little Juanito, and since he was fed up with the pellets and CC stuff, he yearned for some veggies and fruits and he used to love it.

Maybe little Pantufinha is willing to eat this instead. Hold on there!! I know it's a unfair and hard battle but keep on trying it for your girl! I'll be thinking about you and Pantufinha.

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Regiane
Cavy Slave Since '08

Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:04 pm


Thank you for all your kindness, you all are helping a lot.

Princess Aurora, I'm sorry for Juanito. Now I know how it's hard when one of our guinea pigs is sick... Your tip helped me a lot, I'm trying to make different things to her to eat. I saw that veggie things are her preferred.

Now I've made a mash with carrot, parsley, wheat germ and pedialyte. She still is uncooperative, but she ate better this one, I think 5 small syringes. Sometimes is hard to make she eat 2.

She's showing interest for food, it's good. :)

Talishan
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Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:07 pm


Hang in. Sending best wishes and good vibes to her and to you.

pinta

Post   » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:46 pm


Dehydration causes inappetance. Make sure you get fluids into her. Hydration subcue is the most efficient delivery.

She needs at least 20ccs of water daily.

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Princess Aurora

Post   » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:09 am


I'm happy to hear that Pantufinha is more willing to eat the match you've made for her. What you can also do is not to fill in a syringe with the match but instead just offer it to her on a dish and place it in front of her nose so she can give it a sniff :-) Remember the match has to be as thin as possible, do it through the smallest holes of that kitchen device I posted. At least this used to work with Juanito. He used to give a sniff at it and started to eat from the dish.

I second pinta about the fluids and water. What I also used to do to get fluids in Juanito was to do this same match purée but with cucumber which is so juicy, and to grab the purée bunch and squeeze it in a syringe so he could drink that juice and he also used to love it. I hope these tips make Pantufinha to be bothered to eat and drink.

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Regiane
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Post   » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:40 pm


Thank you again for your advices.

Pinta, I'm trying to give her water every time I handfeed her, it's difficult to make she drink but I'm really trying. The procedure will be tomorrow, so I don't want to try to make subcue today, by myself. I'll see how she will be tomorrow, if needed I'll do that.

Can I give her a bit of simethicone? With the mush, she's eating more veggie things and I think it can be good to prevent her tummy to be gassy. What do you think?

Tomorrow will be the day. I'm apprehensive. There's something that I have to be aware of? How long it's suppose to last, how it's suppose to her to react after...?

pinta

Post   » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:49 pm


Ask your vet to show you how to do a subcue. They are really not very difficult. I use tubing attached to the syringe so if the pig moves around the tubing moves with the pig. Make sure the fluids are warmed to body temperature before injecting.

Hydration makes a huge difference in appetite. I can't stress this enough.

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Regiane
Cavy Slave Since '08

Post   » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:03 pm


I understand. I'm nurse assistant, so I think I can make it (I saw the GL page explaining the correct place to inject). I'll ask it to the vet anyway. Thank you. :)

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