UK Piggy - Anselmo's Medical Thread

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Brainerror

Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:21 am


we use f10 to nebulise when the rats have respiratory issues. yes it's a disinfectant, but effective when diluted and nebulised. Super odd I know!

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:37 am


Good to know. If it's safe and works -- one can never have too many tools in the arsenal!

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Jaycey
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Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:12 am


Anselmo has a nebuliser and we use f10 in it. When he had a URI a couple of months ago we had to use antibiotics, of course, but the nebuliser really helped get everything out of him.

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Jaycey
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Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:22 pm


I think I'm going to have to take him to the non-guinea pig savvy vet in the morning.

It's 1am in the morning and I currently have him in the nebuliser in an attempt to quieten his breathing.

He's not got any discharge from his nose and he's bright, alert and eating but his breathing is the loudest I've ever heard. If you were to judge him just on the sound he sounds really congested, possibly on the verge of death.

But physically he's fine. In spite of his injured foot/leg he's getting around his cage fine and is eating hay now whilst the nebuliser is on.

Can anyone advise what to ask for? Gentimycin for the nebuliser? Swap to Baytril? Possibly an x-ray? They did alright when they xrayed him a couple of years ago for his bladder stone but I'm not sure I'd trust them whilst his breathing is this bad.

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Post   » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:35 pm


He needs an x-ray to see what's going on with his lungs. If it's pneumonia, he needs nebulized and oral antibiotics, maybe steroids. If it's a growth, those won't help.

If he's not feeling well, he may be still enough for them to take an x-ray without sedation.

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Jaycey
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Post   » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:07 am


Thanks bpatters. With his foot/leg hurting him he's not moving around quite as much anyway. He still sounds snuffly, not quite as bad but I'm still thinking of taking him when they open in a few hours.

I'll ask if they will xray him as they only open for a few hours, and if not I'll see if they know if the emergency vet will do it.

Last option will be I'll ring my regular vet after and beg to take him first thing Monday morning for an xray.

Nonetheless I'll try for some Gentimycin for the nebuliser.

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daveandtiff

Post   » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:22 am


Thinking of you and your little boy, Jaycey, hoping and praying things will go smoothly for him and that he will gain some comfort.

Talishan
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Post   » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:48 am


Ditto. Best to him and please keep us posted.

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Jaycey
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Post   » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:26 am


Thank you all!

Between me calling the vet for an appointment and the actual appointment Anselmo became a changed pig.

Althought the nebuliser isn't tackling the infection, I do think it has loosened stuff. So, his breathing is almost back to normal (he's was a bit noisy when I picked him up to go in his carrier) but he has a small yellow, almost brown crust around his nostrils.

The vet unfortunately could hardly tell which end of him was which so as his condition has improved I didn't push for an x-ray. I mentioned Gentamicin and she claimed not to have any of that, but had somethinking the same but a different brand, Bisolvon.

Just from reading the sachet it's obviously nothing like it, but I took it anyway to put in the piggy medicine box.

The vet reckons his lungs are quite noisy but my guinea pig vet always says his lungs sound clear and the noise is coming from further up his airways.

She checked his leg/foot and compared to the other one, and believes it"s not fractured or broken.

Plan of action is to continue with the Sulfatrim, twice a day 30 min nebuliser using f10, Metacam for his foot/leg and keep him confined.

If he gets worse I'll take him to the emergency vet for an x-ray but fingers crossed the current course of action is working as it's been 6 hours and only a very occasional noise from him.

I'll ring the guinea pig vet on Monday and book him in for an x-ray as soon as possible. She was reluctant to do it because of his age but I think there's enough various ailments requiring one now:

Check for bladder sludge/stones
Check his foot/leg for issues
Check his lungs for pneumonia
Check his heart for any problems
Take blood to check his protein levels and to see how he's doing on the Bendrofluzamide.

It'll be tough on him as she wants to sedate him but I think it's time to bite the bullet and take the risk. He's at least 6 years old now and healthy in all other regards. He's had 2 bladder stone surgeries before and various x-rays and scans so he'll be fine.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:23 am


I would tend to agree. If she's going to lightly sedate him for the blood draw, get the x-ray too (or vice versa). That is, sedation is sedation, iow, and may as well get done what needs done.

Very, very best to him and to you. Please keep us posted.

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Jaycey
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Post   » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:37 am


Anselmo is booked in for his "guineagram" (the vets words) on Friday.

I've not spoken to the vet yet about his test results as she was in an appointment but she'll ring me back. I know very little about guinea pigs urine. Would someone know what a normal protein level is, and what would be high? Just so I know enough to be compare to when I get the results.

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Jaycey
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Post   » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:43 am


http://www.guinealynx.info/norms.html

I found it! Just adding the link here so I can find it again when I need it.

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Jaycey
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Post   » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:46 am


I swear, my brain ins't working properly. I can't remember if the vet said Anselmo's protein level was 0.9 or 9, compared to a norm of 0.5 or 5. He's got his x-ray tomorrow so I'll ask her again.

There wasn't any blood in his urine. They're not able to pinpoint reasons from the test, it was just to get a more accurate reading.

If we didn't want to go ahead with the x-ray the best action that the vets could think of was to half his dose of Bendrofluazide, then retest in a month or two. If that was the cause then the results should be better.

But, with his breathing problems and his leg still not being 100% then we're going with an x-ray, and whatever else they wish to look at whilst he's under.

Regarding his foot, I've been puzzling over what might have caused it. I'm thinking either he's twanged it when climbing up at the bars, or he's tangled himself in his hay. So, I'm going to try to source some smaller pieces of hay for him as the current stuff is quite long strands. In the meantime I've started to cut it down with scissors for him.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:55 am


Hay tangles are definitely a possibility - I don't think many people consider them. For me, walking around outside, sometimes it is vines that entrap the feet.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:18 pm


Ditto. But most of ours have done it climbing the bars (or landing funny after doing so).

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Jaycey
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Post   » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:05 pm


A quick run through before I forget what the vet says.

Anselmo is awake, back home and resting off the day in his cage.

The x-rays showed as best they can a normal heart, lungs and kidneys. However they did show 2 tiny (less than 2mm) stones which look like they're travelling down the ureter according to the position they're in. You can't see them from the top down x-ray. The vet doesn't want to operate on them where they are and believes he can pass them if needed. He has a bit of bladder sludge but he did in his last x-ray about 17 months ago.

Also his leg problem stems from him having arthritis. Both his shoulders, hips and hocks look pretty bad.

Blood was taken, thankfully he could get enough from over clipping a toe. We get the results sometime next week.

Until then we'll keep up the diuretic and Metacam. Depending on the results we have have to swap the Metacam and either stop or reduce the diuretic.

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:54 pm


They don't usually operate on stones in the ureter -- it's very hard to do, and doesn't usually work.

But if you can force fluids and keep him active, he might pass the stones if they're very small. If they'll move through the ureter, they might move through the urethra.

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Jaycey
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Post   » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:00 pm


Thanks bpatters. He's not the best at taking syringed water but I'll try to get as much as I can in him and I'll continue to wet his veg and I'll start putting a small bottle of water with a bit of 100% fresh orange juice in it on his cage twice daily too, he'll drink upto 30ml of that some days. I can do that for a couple of months hopefully before the weather gets too warm and makes the orange go off.

Comparing the x-ray to the last one he had that showed stones they are tiny in comparison so I'm hoping due to it being 2 years since his last stone then they're not going to grow. But I'll be watching him like a hawk now, just in case.

Now he's been diagnosed with arthritis and I have pain relief I hope to get him more active again, one his leg feels better.

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:49 pm


If his leg feels better, he may move more as well. And that will be good.

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:56 pm


Ditto bpatters.

Best to him, and to you.

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