Pregnant and din't know and now have 3 babies.Please help :(

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:00 am


The cream looks soothing. The link to the probiotic did not give much info. You would watch out for too much sugar in the product (look at the list of ingredients on the package). Probiotics are flexible. Read more:
www.guinealynx.info/probiotics.html

Since ear drops are not ingested, a wide range of antibiotics can be used.

bpatters
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Post   » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:58 am


The probiotic should be ok. The cream should also, if you apply it sparingly and rub it in well. I'd prefer just plain cold pressed virgin coconut oil if you can get it, though.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:02 pm


Ditto Lynx and bpatters.

Do follow up on selamectin if the vet can get it, too.

Pooja Mehta

Post   » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:57 pm


Thank you everyone for helping.
I applied the cream today for the first time. I dont have much experience with applying creams to piggies, so tried to be as cautious as possible. I applied as little as I could and rubbed it in his skin and kept him out of his cage for a good 15/20 minutes, so that he wouldn't lick it immediately and would allow the skin to absorb the cream.

The link to the probiotic dint give all the information, that's why I wrote additional information as listed on the package. Sandy seems to like the probiotic and takes it willingly :)

Sandy has a follow up appointment in three days, will enquire about Selamectin that time.

Talishan
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Post   » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:18 pm


Sounds like a plan. Please keep us posted.

Pooja Mehta

Post   » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:40 pm


How long do you generally give ear drops and enrofloxacin?
Sandy has stopped eating from yesterday. First two days he was eating and pooping normally inspite of being in so much pain and his condition not diagosed. I guess antibiotics and pain killer has taken a toll on him. I generally give him medicines with food but yesterday since he was munching his food, I thought he has a full stomach and gave him medicines, he ate a little coriander after that and then he stopped eating. I am hand feeding him and will take him to the vet in the evening.

Any advice or suggestions please.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:59 am


When you measure the antibiotic, how much do you think you are giving? What do you use to draw the dose? I ask because it was such a concentrated solution that this would be a very tiny amount. I had calculated out this range:
I come up with a low of 0.016cc to a high of 0.065cc using a concentration of 100mg/ml and a weight of 0.65kg.
Here is a crop of a 1cc syringe:
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I think you are doing things right. It could be he is not handling the enrofloxacin well.
www.guinealynx.info/antibiotic_advice.html

Pooja Mehta

Post   » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:39 pm


Lynx, I give him 0.1 ml twice a day. I draw the dose from a 1cc needless syringe.

I asked my vet about the concentration of her enrofloxacin bottle and she said its the same 10% bottle. If its the same concentration then I think my NEW vet might have overdosed my piggy. Oh my God, what should I do now?
No wonder he has been sleeping a lot and loses his balance and falls down while walking because of dizziness. He hasn't lost any weight yet and the vet told me to give him the medicine for one more day and then stop because his head tilt has gone and his ear looks better. He did well the first two days but then he lost his appetite.

I read on the antibiotic page that Baytril is generally given for more than a week but my vet prescribed for only 5 days. Should I give him for 7 days and then stop? How do I know if his ear infection has cleared or no? For how many days do you generally give antibiotics for a ear infection?

What enrofloxacin dose should I give him tomorrow? 0.016cc, 0.065cc or 0.1cc?

Please please help.

Talishan
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Post   » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:51 pm


Baytril can go as high as 15 mg/kg of pig. 0.1 mL of a 100 mg/mL solution is 10 mg.

I've had vets use very high doses for shorter than usual periods of time to try to really hammer an infection.

Right now I would give lots, and lots, AND LOTS of probiotics. See Lynx' link.

Pooja Mehta

Post   » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:58 pm


0.1 ml of a 100mg/ml solution is 10mg for a kilo pig. Sandy was 620 grams when started with enrofloxacin. So the vet calculated 16.13mg/kg for Sandy of the 100mg/ml solution, which is really high I guess. Sandy has increased to 700 grams now and tonite is the last dose of his 5 days course.

I will observe him tomorrow for the after effects of the medicine. He is eating really less and is still very lethargic and dizzy. I am force feeding him. Hope he improves from tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

How many times in a day can you give probiotics?

bpatters
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Post   » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:03 pm


You give probiotics about an hour or so after every dose of antibiotic.

Pooja Mehta

Post   » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:41 pm


Yes, I give probiotics after antibiotics twice a day. Can you give probiotics more than twice?

bpatters
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Post   » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:13 pm


There's no point in giving any time other than an hour or so after an antibiotic dose. Probiotics replace the gut bacteria that the antibiotic kills, so following the antibiotic with probiotic is sufficient.

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:02 pm


A little more throughout the day won't hurt him, especially if he likes it, but don't force it. If he doesn't take the probiotic willingly, force it only about an hour after each AB administration.

If he likes it and considers it a treat, a bit more throughout the day won't hurt him and may help, but it's not critical (as it is an hour or so post-AB).

Pooja Mehta

Post   » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:47 am


He has finished his five days antibiotics course and is not on any medication now. He is still not eating like before. He tries to eat few pieces and that's it. He eats those few pieces properly without pain like a normal piggy but then he loses interest. He doesn't eat much when I try to handfeed him his favourite veggies also. His right molar has grown a little but it dint bother him during the first two days of his antibiotics course nor when he eats those few pieces, so I doubt its the molar that is hurting him. Please correct me if I am wrong.

He is not able to walk and loses his balance while moving. He drags his feet while walking. Could it be the after effects of the medicines? How long does it take the after effects to wear off?

I am worried for a dental surgery at his age (7 years) because he will have to be under anesthesia. Should I still get his molars planned?

Please help.

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:39 pm


I honestly don't know. But keep handfeeding/forcefeeding him to keep his weight up and his GI moving.

His mobility may improve as the meds clear his system -- it may take a while, though.

Pooja Mehta

Post   » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:10 pm


I just read in one of the recent medical thread (Judith's medical thread) that a piggy lost the use of her rear legs because of Baytril. I think the same has happened to Sandy. He started dragging and using less of his rear legs when it was his third day of enrofloxacin and stopped eating the same day. Afrer that he could barely walk. Now I understand that it wasn't the dizziness but his inability to hold himself up on his legs which caused the imbalance and the falling.

I wanted to know if all this is temporary or permanent? (Please, please say temporary)
If temporary, how long does it take a piggy to be back to normal?
If permanent, what should be done ahead?

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:00 pm


I don't think there is only one answer to your questions. I hope it is temporary and that she returns to normal in a reasonable amount of time.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:35 am


If permanent (hopefully not, but if):

viewtopic.php?t=15475

If he's not eating, you MUST hand/forcefeed to keep his GI moving and weight up.

Pooja Mehta

Post   » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:58 pm


I lost my baby Sandy today (16th July,2017). I really thought he was bouncing back to health. After stopping enrofloxacin, he had started eating on his own, though slowly but he used to finish off all his food. Today also he finished his night food and when I gave him breakfast, he wasn't eating. I thought he was full and will eat later.

I was going to be out the entire day today, so left him with my cousin next door. By evening she realised that Sandy wasn't moving and called me to inform about him. She said Sandy ate in the afternoon also. I wonder what must have happened to him suddenly.

I am shattered right now. In the last three and half months this is the second piggy that I have lost. Sandy was going to be 7.1 years tomorrow. He was such a calm and loving piggy. He never fought with anyone. Even when others fought, he stayed away. He enjoyed his own company, never needed anyone. During floor time also, he used to explore everything alone. He has never harassed me for anything. He used to get mad at me for cleaning his poop shoes. He hated it and hated me for torturing him like that but the next minute he used to love me like before. His love was unconditional.

Since the last two days he used to wheek everytime he saw me even when there was food in his cage. I thought he wheeked for cilantro (his favourite) and I told him that he has to eat hay and it wasn't veggie time yet. Now I realise that he wheeked for my attention, he wanted me to hold and pet him, to love him, to make him feel comfortable, to cuddle and kiss him. I feel so bad thinking about all this. I am disappointed with myself for not understanding what he wanted to tell me. I dint even get a chance to bid him goodbye. I am heartbroken. I miss him already :(

RIP Sandy, my baby, my little one. Mama loves you and will always do. I know you are happy up there popcorning like crazy. Stay happy and blessed always :* :*

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