Alice- female discharge

slavetofuzzy
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Post   » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:22 pm


Usually with teeth filing, they are good to go right away. If you give her meds in morning before you leave for work, then at night she should be ok. If you can go home at lunch to check on her, that would be ideal, depending on what it is. But once those molars are trimmed they are usually back to normal. I hope that's all it is.

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linshad02
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Post   » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:43 pm


I hope I don't jinx it but Alice is eating and pooping more and more as the day goes on. I'm going to call the vet at 7:30 when they open and find out when I can bring her in. Her appointment isn't until 4 but they said I could bring her in early for observation.
My husband works out of our house so he will be able to keep an eye on her Tuesday. We decided that I would go to work as normal unless she isn't back to normal.
I agree that I hope it's all it is. Heck, I'd be ok if it was as simple as something getting lodged and it got worked out.
I'll keep updates here and most likely on facebook.
I've been scared senseless all day.

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linshad02
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Post   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:54 am


Leaving in 15 minutes to drop Alice at the vet for the day.
She is eating some and pooping some but her belly is nowhere near as smooshy as it needs to be.
I'm scared to death.

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linshad02
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Post   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:18 am


Alice is at the Vet.
As I was leaving, the vet tech ran out and told me that Dr. Laura wanted to speak with me.
She examined Alice while I was in the room.
Found her left molars to be growing slightly longer than her right ones.
She also found a small nodule on her Thyroid.
I left my girl at the vet today so that they can get her gut moving and do her molar planing.

Next is figuring out what to do about the Thyroid thing.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:29 am


Sending good wishes for Alice. Are the incisors lopsided too? Maybe a chin sling might help?

gl/chinsling.html

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linshad02
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Post   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:33 am


She said her incisors are perfect. No problem at all there. The teeth will be an easy fix. I worry about the Thyroid nodule.

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linshad02
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Post   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:26 am


Something else I wanted to add, after reading about Thyroid issues.
She has been hitting up the water bottle more than normal in the last week. I've been filling it twice a day. It is a small water bottle, but it's also not unusual to go an entire day without it needing to be filled.

Any suggestions on what I should be asking the vet about as far as testing to get to the bottom of the Thyroid issue?

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linshad02
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Post   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:51 pm


Ok. We are home and settled.
Alice does not have lopsided molars, as previously thought.
Once she was under, Dr. Laura discovered the source for the gagging motion and for going off of her food.
She has a gap in between her 2nd and 3rd lower left molars. The food got packed into this gap, causing pain.
Dr. Laura cleared the debris and placed Clindoral in the space between the teeth.
I was lucky to get there when I did. She let me come in while Alice was under, to see what was going on. She said the molars are actually pretty perfect and even. The only thing was the gap.
I have to flush that space at least once a day, with a syringe.

On to the thyroid. She showed me how to feel the nodule. Right now it is very small. About the size of a small pea. I need to check it every couple of days to make sure it isn't growing. She said that if it grows, we will do a T4 test to see what is going on.
As of now, just monitor her thirst and her neck.

I'm working round the clock with reglan and vibrating pillows, critical care and water, to get her gut going again.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:43 pm


Your vet sounds very thorough. I so hope things get moving properly again!

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linshad02
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Post   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:02 am


Still having bloating issues. Any suggestions besides the above mentioned things?
My vet did say something about Cisapride if need be.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:00 am


I don't know if you've recently read any of the links to bloat threads but they could help.

gl/emergency.html#bloat

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linshad02
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Post   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:40 am


I need to go back and read the bloat stuff again.
My boss is super awesome. He is letting me bring her in so I can keep an eye on her and feed her.
She can handle a tiny pet store cage for a few hours.

Crazy4me

Post   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:28 pm


How are you holding up linshad, and how is Alice doing?

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linshad02
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Post   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:47 am


I'm tired. Still scared. She's on and off. Belly is soft but not enough poop for my liking. I don't know what else to do. I wish I knew what caused the gap in her molars. I wish I could fix it. I wish she would poop a lot more.
My head sees her to a ripe age well beyond her 3-1/2 years.
My gut knows she won't make it to 4.
Thanks for asking, Crazy4me. :)

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:15 pm


This is such a hard place to be. I'm so sorry she is not improving quickly.

Talishan
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Post   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:48 pm


Without reading back --

1. Is she on Reglan? If the answer is yes, you may want to add a **small** dose of Cisapride into the mix. If she's improving, albeit slowly, with the Reglan, then it may not be necessary. Carry on with what you're doing and she'll turn the corner right about when you are about to drop.

2. Thyroid nodule: how is her weight? Up or down? Is her behavior energetic, almost hyper, or somewhat sluggish? (I'm shooting for clinical sign for either hyperthyroidism, or hypo. We've had three hyperthyroid pigs, and no hypothyroid.

The T4 is a special request. That's not part of a standard mammalian profile, and it needs extra blood, which is hard to get from a guinea pig. (Ask Dr. Laura about sending it, if you decide to do this, to University of Miami. They have developed something of a specialty in doing nonstandard animal bloodwork, even though they don't have a vet school:

http://cpl.med.miami.edu/services

They love weird stuff. ;-)

If it were me I'd get the bloat resolved first, then monitor her clinical signs. If she's hyper, then you can consider a trial of Tapazole (methimazole). Pretty sure there's a dose in Carpenter's for it.

Surgery is also a possibility, but I'd sure get her GI stabilized first.

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linshad02
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Post   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:58 pm


Talishan,
She is on reglan. And the bloat is definitely resolving slowly. I've been ready to drop for a couple of days but I won't give up until she is gone. I'm going to fight to keep her going for the both of us.
Gave Simethicone drops today and the gas seems to finally be dissipating.

Dr. Laura showed me how to feel the nodule. It's very tiny. Smaller than a pea. You can just barely feel it and it is moveable.
She has always been sort of a lazy pig. She has never done zoomies or really a whole lot of running around. She does run up the ramp for feeding and to get to the hay. She isn't any more active than normal. More thirsty, yes. She's never been a big drinker and now she drinks after each bite of pellets.
Dr. Laura said that if her thirst doesn't ease up (and that could also be related to the teeth issue because she mainly drinks while eating pellets)
and if the nodule grows, she brought up a T4 test.
She basically doesn't want to mess with it if it's nothing. I have to feel it at least a couple of times a week, just to keep the feel for the size.

If anything, I would think she has hypothyroidism. But right now, I'm not giving it a second thought.
And I'm not a vet so I won't even pretend to know what to look for or what I'm talking about. :)

Talishan
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Post   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:16 pm


"She basically doesn't want to mess with it if it's nothing. I have to feel it at least a couple of times a week, just to keep the feel for the size. "

Dr. Laura sounds like she knows what she's doing. I'd do exactly what she says for right now. Additional thirst indicates hy-per but her behavior does not, and it could be related to the teeth issue as you mention.

Keep us posted.

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linshad02
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Post   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:12 pm


Alice is, well, Alice again. She wheeked, she dove in to her veggies and pigged out.
I wasn't going to give her any but the gas that came back went away again. She is in a food coma right now. I have a follow up scheduled tomorrow morning but I will speak with the doc and see what she thinks.
If she continues this upward turn, I may put the appointment off for another time.
I'm going to take a nap now. I'm ready to drop.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:21 pm


Hoping she does indeed continue this upward turn!

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