And now my dilemma is, do I stop all greens, even the leaf lettuces for a while, or even possibly for good?
And would she be better off in her own cage without the smells of greens or any treats that the other girls are getting? And would my other two girls be better without her in with them if this doesn't resolve because of the mess?
There is dried poo everywhere. Even on the food and water dish rims. I've washed them three times already today.
I'm going to at least call the vet tomorrow to let her know what's going on and to ask if I should stop the bactrim or keep it up and see if the no veggies helps first.
I've got her in the separate cage for now(pushed up against the other cage) but hope to put her back in with the girls when she's not so messy.
- You can quote me
Not real likely but not impossible. We had one little girl who could not even tolerate metronidazole. We just prayed she never needed an AB for anything at all.
I still say try a course of metronidazole if you haven't already (without reading back).
You are giving probiotics, yes?
She's had a 14 day course of Flagyl and handled that well. Didn't clear things up but certainly didn't make anything worse.
This morning her poos are not so runny but are still not great. I gave her some more poop soup from Goldie and have skipped her morning dose of bactrim until I talk to the vet.
I will also skip the greens.
She's still in her separate cage. :(
Unfortunately, she says there is no "magic bullet" for cases like Zoey's, that we are doing everything we can, and that sometimes no matter what you do, the loose poos will not resolve(and will recur if they do improve). I guess I kind of knew this.
She recommends that I continue with the bactrim as sometimes things can get a little worse before they get better.
She also said that if the bactrim and flagyl haven't done the trick, she would not know which step to take next, what other meds to try, and that she read that sometimes the only solution is to feed hay only, supplemented with vitamin c. No veggies, no pellets. She did say this worried her a bit but that in most cases, the diarrhea will resolve.
We talked for quite a while and she said she'd leave things up to me and that if I was concerned or needed advice, to call her. She said she trusted my judgement as to whether or not to stop the bactrim if the diarrhea worsens or does not improve, and whether or not to try the hay and vitamin c only thing. We discussed that if it comes down to that, weighing would be crucial...and so on.
I don't know. I think we are both a bit confused and frustrated. It seems like we are doing all the right things but as i said, sometimes for whatever reason, even that doesn't work and a pig can have unexplained, chronic, loose stool.
For now, I'm continuing with the bactrim and am giving extra vitamin c, poop soup, and probiotics. I am feeding her hay and pellets only. I'm not ready to cut the pellets out and want to see if just cutting out the greens helps first.
Forgot to mention in my previous posts that her watery eye has resolved. At least there's a bit of good news to report.
- Supporter in '14
I swtiched due to dental issues, but wonder if it may help your girl. Twice a day they get corn husks and silks and usualy cilantro. In the morning they get wheat grass and in the evening I add one of these three: cherry tomato, red pepper, or strawberry. I doubt she could handle the tomato, strawberry or pepper, but perhaps the other three would not bother her since they are more like grass. Cilantro has a decent amount of C in it as well.
- Supporter in 2014
I had to stop all of his veg for a while, to give him time for his poops to clear up. I always took him out of the cage whilst the other two chowed down.
I did slowly introduce things back one at a time to see what he can handle, and what he can't. I separate the cage at fed time so he has his limited selection at one end and the other two have their usual.
I found cilantro and cucumber to be a big no for him. I've not tried tomato again yet, and he seems to be fine at the moment with red pepper (not green or yellow)
I made sure to feed him more regularly and other than becoming an expert at chattering his teeth he doesn't seem to have suffered and his weight is stable.
I did feel awful for him, but I felt less like a meanie when I got him out for his extra noms.
I hope things get better for Zoey!
Although I do think this girl is at a point right now where I need to cut out all veggies. At least for now until these poops are under control. I need to figure out what's what. Not a good time to add anything to the mix I am thinking, other than the limited pellets, hay, vit c, and probiotics. Once things look better, and I so hope they will, I can start seeing what, as far as veggies go, she can handle. Hopefully at least a couple of them? Or grass at the very least.
I love the separating for feeding time. That's a great idea and it may come in very handy at some point. I hadn't even thought of that.
It gives me hope that I can maybe get her back with my other girls at some point.
Please people, fingers crossed that what I'm doing now works and the soft poos resolve!!
Right now she's in another room away from the main cage and when it was veggie time, she started wheeking. :( I tried to do it as quietly as I could. Then I went in there to talk to her, take some poops out of the cage, and loaded her up with lots of hay.
It's just so sad to me that she can't have veggies right now as we all know how crazy about them our pigs are.
Jaycey, how long after stopping veggies did it take for the poos to look better?
- Poop Obsessed
It is Kyodophilus, and it is working for my girl Stella. It is turning her GI around, and I am thrilled. Knock on wood.
I sprinkle around 1/8th into a bowl and mix with 1cc of water twice a day, so every day, she is getting about 1/4th of the capsule.
I think it works way better than the Bene-Bac and others. Also, remember not to give it within 1 1/2 - 2 hours either side of the antibiotics.