Hay Poke, probably not a serious problem but still...

Jazzbox

Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:43 pm


Note please I attempted to use the forum's search function but got the following error message: "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 16 bytes) in /home/guinea2/public_html/forums/db/mysql4.php on line 214".

At any rate, we just noticed that Going Merry, our 3 1/2 year old girl, has an eye problem that seems to me to be a hay poke. As her eye looked fine a short while earlier this evening, this obviously just happened.

She does not seem to be in any pain, and in fact came over to me earlier with her best "I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a few blueberries today" look. Of course, I gave her a few. (She thinks she fooled me but I am smarter than she realizes.)

What do we need to do, other than watch for any signs of infection? And what are the signs of infection for which we must watch?

Thanks in advance!
(And as I said, we first tried to use the forum's search function but it only returned an error message.)

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skinnypigs1
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Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:46 pm


You'll need to take her to a vet asap.
Eye injuries are serious.
You don't want her to go blind or to lose her eye, she'll need eye drops of some kind to help heal it.
This is not something that you can just watch, she needs to be seen by a vet!

Jazzbox

Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:48 pm


Okay, we will call the vet tomorrow!

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skinnypigs1
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Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:51 pm


That's great!
You don't want anything to happen to your lil cutie.
I was given Cirpofloxacin drops when my piggy needed them and they healed up the eye injury quickly.

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:01 pm


Ditto skinnypigs1. Eye injuries are serious.

I have used Gentamicin Sulfate drops/ointment prescribed by my vet to treat hay pokes, with good results as well.

Here is some info on eyes:
http://www.guinealynx.info/eyes.html

Jazzbox

Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:14 pm


I am a little hesitant to recommend to the vet what medication that she should prescribe. OF course I will post here as soon as we get back from the vet. (I would be very surprised if we were unable to see the vet tomorrow.)

Are there any particular advantages or disadvantages to either Gentamicin Sulfate or Cirpofloxacin? As for the Gentamicin, guinea pigs do not strenuously object to having ointment applied to their eyes?

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skinnypigs1
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Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:17 pm


We weren't telling you what to recommend to your vet, just letting you know what we've used as a reference :)

I think it would depend greatly on the temperment of your piggy.
Out of my pigs, the one with the eye drops was the worst for doing things with, just the way it had to go of course.
Other pigs of mine have been amazing for doing things you'd think they'd hate.

Jazzbox

Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:23 pm


Well of course I will mention to the vet the two medications that have been cited here. I trust that if she has something else in mind, she will explain why she thinks one particular medicament will be more efficacious others.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:23 pm


The eye page provides some sound guidelines. I hope it heals up well.

Your photo is very clear. Let me know if you'd like it permanently added to this thread.

Josephine
Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:26 pm


Whoa! That looks like a huge ulcer to me! Definitely painful. Definitely see a vet by tomorrow, at the latest. Don't think you need to go on emergency tonight, but it is a serious one!!!

Ointments in general stick around the eye longer, so usually don't have to be applied as often. Antibiotic drops usually need to be used every 6-8 hours (or more often, depending on the med and problem).

Jazzbox

Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:31 pm


Josephine: she does not show any signs that I can interpret as caused by her being in pain. She is pretty much just her usual self.

Lynx, by all means add the picture to the thread permanently; perhaps it will prove useful to others.

Josephine
Little Jo Wheek

Post   » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:38 pm


O.K. I'm just saying it is a horribly painful thing to have a chunk of your cornea missing. It's a bad one. Whether or not you are "noticing" what you think are signs of pain does not negate the potential pain.

dmppiggie

Post   » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:50 am


Is it hay poke weekend? (one of my girls just got one Friday night)

For sure the vet--no question with that one. My Mollie wasn't showing outward signs, but when I was holding her, she was shuddering (sign of pain/fear).

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nicodimus22

Post   » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:02 am


One of my boars just had an enucleation as a result of a hay poke. I treated it constantly for 2.5 months, trying to salvage the eye, but it was a lost cause. Went to a vet opthamologist and everything.

My pig never showed any signs of pain, yet had a nasty injury. They hide it well.

Jazzbox

Post   » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:18 am


Okay, we have a vet appointment for 6.00 this evening. It is probably that we could have gotten an appointment during the day except that I would feel much better if the girlie went along too, but her job will not allow her taking time off during the day.

Now, in addition to the salve or ointment or eyedrops, should we either expect or request, for example, Metacam for pain? Naturally if she is in pain, as most people here think that she would be, having such an injury, we would want to alleviate it.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:47 am


Review signs of pain here. Not a bad idea to weigh your pig daily right now as not eating as much is a serious sign of pain (has more negative consequences).

gl/pain.html

Jazzbox

Post   » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:57 am


I am reading the pages carefully, although I do not see any of the symptoms mentioned. I will of course continue to monitor her.

If there is pain, it could not be from the cornea proper, could it? I was under the impression that the cornea is essentially dead tissue, with no nerves in it.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:59 am


I can't answer that (don't know enough). I would look for the signs of pain listed (no matter how or from where it originates).

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:12 pm


Aside from the possibility of pain, that needs aggressive treatment to heal. You wouldn't want her to lose an eye if it worsens. It's never a bad idea to discuss pain meds with your vet.

Fortunately, my pigs haven't had many injuries to their eyes, but the few times it did happen, they showed definite signs of pain. The eye is a sensitive area in general.

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lisam

Post   » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:10 pm


My Natalie had an eye that looked just like that. Using the drops three times a day helped the eye to get better in just days.

She was on Metacam for just two days.

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