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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:16 pm


With these particular signs, I expect nebulizing Gentamycin really would help. I sometimes forget how long people's guinea pigs have been struggling with some sorts of issues. Lana has had some helpful advice.

grace505

Post   » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:22 pm


Lynx, yeah, i'm really thinking of trying the Gentamycin for sure, i just think it's WAY past time to get the culture done, especially before i spend the $50 for a nebulizer and whatnot, so here's to crossing my fingers for some answers finally! I find it reassuring that you agree with the Gentamycin idea. I've REALLY appreciated the advice Lana and everyone else has given me!! I can really understand how you could lose track of the timelines on all the different threads, i'd never keep it together! :) I'll let everyone know what the culture says when the results come back.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:31 pm


Gentamycin, given in a nebulizer, is much safer than trying to give it any other way. I believe it kills a different group of bacteria than the Baytril.

grace505

Post   » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:46 pm


Lynx, i've been interested in nebulizing for a long time now, i'll be interested to see what the results of the culture will show. The vet mentioned about it being harsh on the kidneys/liver???, and Lana gave some tips about helping to prevent that, so we'll see what meds are called for.

I just can't believe they said it would take three to four weeks for the results to come back after the culture! But after seven months of fighting this, i guess one more month shouldn't be that bad, knock on wood. :)

bpatters
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Post   » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:24 am


It really shouldn't take 3-4 weeks, but it will take a while.

First, they have to grow enough of the bacteria to be able to test them with antibiotics. Then they test with different strengths of different antibiotics to see what works the best, or not at all. Things grow at the rate they grow -- there's no hurrying them. But you're usually looking at a few days, not weeks.

grace505

Post   » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:44 am


bpatters, faster would be better! So will it come back saying use THIS drug at THIS strength, or the different strengths is just a part of their testing to see what meds work best? Thanks!

NOTE: To clarify my above post, i meant the Gentamycin was harsh on the kidneys/liver, not nebulizing in general, badly worded, i'm sorry!

bpatters
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Post   » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:59 pm


It's just part of the testing. They have (or they used to) little disks, like paper dot about the size of a capital O on here, that are impregnated with different antibiotics in different strengths. They grow the bacteria on plates, and then sprinkle the dots on the bacteria colonies. The bacteria die around the disks that have an antibiotic that's effective on them, and not around the others.

Of course, it's been many years since I did that, and they may have a whole new way of doing it now. But you'd think it would be faster, rather than slower, if that's the case.

Lana

Post   » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:37 pm


Youi're getting a culture? Finally! It should take a week, not four weeks...

Gentamycin and baytril might do the trick given your pig responds to baytril. You have now ruled out cipro. And no, do not mix baytril and cipro.

grace505

Post   » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:27 am


Lana, i know, right? I knew you'd be happy! One week would be great! The Cipro was just too cheap ($4.50) not to try before i went and spent 200 dollars for the culture. I'm just waiting for his breathing to be better on the Baytril/Doxy in case they have to sedate him. I'll let everyone know when it happens and what the results are, though!

grace505

Post   » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:00 am


Lana, you said to get a nebulizer that had a particle size less than 5mm. The ones i saw list particle size in microns, like three microns, etc. Looking at a converter online, it says that one micron equals .001 mm, does that sound right? I just wanted to make sure i'm looking for the right thing.

You also stated that for the Gentamycin in the nebulizer it's 1 ml Gentamycin and 3 ml saline, do i run it till empty? I've read threads that talk about running it till the cup is empty plus ten extra minutes, but you were saying turn it on and off after a good steam is built up, could you clarify? Do you mean build a good steam, turn off, let steam dissapate a little, turn it on, build steam, let it dissapate, over and over till gone?

Any other advice on nebulizing besides the info on water logged veggies and fruits to help dilute through the kidneys? Thanks!

Lana

Post   » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:03 am


mm = microns

No point running the nebulizer if the cup is empty. I suggest turning it off and on so you're not wasting meds.

Plug the nebulizer into a powerbar, and use the powerbar to turn it off and on so you're not breaking the switch on the nebulizer (I did this with my first one).

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:09 am


I like the power bar option. Comes in handy for other applications too!

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