Zoe's Medical Thread

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Delaine
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Post   » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:59 pm


Sometimes Zoe will take water from a syringe but soon gets bored with the game. If I rub the tip of the syringe on a slice of apple I can fool her for a short time. I will keep trying. I do rinse her veggies in water and drain them before giving them to her and she is drinking from her water bottle. I hope that will be enough until she can run around and shake up that sludge! I compare a guinea pig bladder to one of those glass Christmas globes with the fake snow. When you shake it up all the snow floats around and when you set it down all the snow settles to the bottom.

I don't remember being this stressed when my children were sick! I was not worried when I went to work today because Zoe is doing so well and eating as much or more than before the surgery. Her sister Abbey looks like she has put on weight. She hasn't been tormented and chased around by Zoe for a week now and she is getting kind of chunky.

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Post   » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:25 pm


The snow globe analogy is a good one. I'm gonna remember that.

Kids are more durable than guinea pigs (well, as long as it isn't super-serious).

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Post   » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:20 pm


Last night I had Zoe out in a 1 x 2 floor time pen so she could have her supper and maybe interact with Abbey through the grids. We have been doing this for a few nights now and Zoe seems to appreciate the change of scenery and a return to her normal routine.

It had been 9 days since her surgery so after I put Abbey back in her cage I opened up Zoe's small run so she could explore the floor time area if she chose to. She went into the lower floor time cage and sniffed in the cuddle cup Abbey was using and it looked like she was eating some of Abbey's poops.

All of a sudden she panicked. I don't know if she had a pain or just got scared. I put her back into her cage and after that she stopped pooping for awhile, didn't want to eat and then pooped small, sticky, misshapen poops. I massaged the sides of her tummy and gave her some probiotic. I could get her to eat greens and she munched a little on hay but not with the same enthusiasm.

This morning her poops are normal and she is eating hay but not interested in her pellets. As the day is progressing she seems to be returning to normal and I just heard her at the water bottle. After her scare she would not eat pellets or drink water so I have been offering her water from a syringe.

She only walked about the length of three grids so I don't think she did anything to her incision. The outside stitches look good. I think she just got a fright which for Zoe can throw off her digestion and cause these symptoms. It is not the first time this has happened.

Anyways, now I am stressing about reintroducing her to Abbey and putting her back into the main cage in case this happens again. She seems to have become accustom to the smaller 2 x 2 cage. Abbey seems extremely content having the main cage to herself so I am not sure if she is going to be too happy having Zoe back.


I am going to set up a new floor time area for the introductions somewhere they have never been in hopes they will need each other for security.


Should I wait the full 14 days or do you think I could try and introduce her to Abbey on day 12? I am not going to try anything new until the Easter closures are done at her Vet office in case I need them. They are normally open 7 day a week so I will call tomorrow and find out their schedule for this long weekend.

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Post   » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:07 am


Zoe is doing well. I have been working hard at getting her weight up. The day before her surgery she was 1198 gr. and she went as low as 1084 gr. (after I put her back in with Abbey). I started giving her extra greens, grass, a few oat flakes and just introduced a very few organic shelled sunflower seeds. She has slowly been gaining weight and tonight she weighed 1127 gr. so I think I can relax a little.

I do have a new concern. I noticed on Saturday that two of Zoe's back nails had turned black. The toes looked good at that time. I have been checking them everyday for any changes. Tonight one toenail is still black and only a very small tip of the other one. I think the toe connected to the black nail may be slightly swollen tonight so I will make an appointment tomorrow to take her in to her vet.

Has anyone had experience with something like this? They were fine when I had her nails cut March 6th and they cut them on March 24th when she had her surgery and nothing was mentioned.

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Post   » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:21 am


The surgery was a spay? I am surprised about the nails turning black. Read gl/heart.html I wonder if there is a blood circulation problem or lymph nodes. Check the feet for feeling.

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Delaine
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Post   » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:23 am


Thanks for the link Talishan. Yes it was a spay. She came out of the anesthetic quickly and she doesn't have any other signs of heart issues. I had an X-ray done March 6th to check for stones and asked about her heart. Her vet said it looked normal and she could see no signs of arthritis.

They cut her nails at the same time as her surgery. Could cutting a nail too short cause it to go black? Or maybe she caught it on something? There is nothing obvious in her cage that she could catch it on.

Only one nail is currently all black.

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Post   » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:05 pm


If it bled, it may be dried blood you are seeing.

Talishan
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Post   » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:27 pm


Ditto Lynx.

Can you post a picture?

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Delaine
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Post   » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:45 am


Here are a couple of pictures of Zoe's toe nails. I didn't know which one was better. I have an appointment to take her in Monday morning to see her vet. The toe attached to the dark nail seems a little swollen.

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Post   » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:53 am


Oh, that is very helpful. Do you want me to add your pics permanently to the thread? I do think it is dried blood. Did the really black one bleed lots?

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Delaine
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Post   » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:15 am


Thanks Lynx. Please add my pics permanently. I noticed no blood at all. Last Saturday I just noticed two black nails and now only one is all black and only the tip of the other one.

It is the slight swelling of the toe that has me concerned.

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Post   » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:21 pm


Let us know what the vet says. I'd be concerned about the toe swelling, too.

It looks almost as if blood clotted *inside* the nail vein.

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Delaine
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Post   » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:50 pm


I am thinking some sort of trauma to the toes, maybe during floor time?? I didn't allow her floor time until April 7th, two weeks after surgery.

I have a feeling it must have happened between April 7th and when I noticed it on the 11th. From March 24th up until April 7th I was checking her incision daily in front of the bathroom mirror. Surely I would of noticed something so obvious unless I was so focused on her incision and missed it.

It will be interesting to see what her vet says. I will let you know her findings.

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Delaine
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Post   » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:08 pm


You know I vaguely remember one of them stumbling when they went from the floor to the lower floor time cage. I have a 12" x 12" fleece covered platform (like a large step) so they don't have to jump the 5" from the floor to the cage area. I am pretty sure it was Zoe that stumbled. It is very possible that is when it happened.

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Post   » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:29 pm


You could also soak her foot if you wanted to (for the swelling). gl/pododermatitis.html

Talishan
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Post   » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:07 pm


Giving her foot a soak certainly wouldn't hurt.

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Post   » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:09 pm


We had an X-ray done and Zoe has a subluxation of her toe. The X-ray showed one of the joints is slightly out of alignment. We were sent home with Metacam for 2 weeks to help with the inflammation. You can see the healthy nail starting to grow out behind the dark blood. Her vet said that toe may always be a little larger even after it heals.

I am thinking it happened the day she slipped when jumping into her floor time cage. She definitely landed on her left back foot.

Her vet also removed a stitch with a knot that had worked its way out of her incision. So the trip was well worthwhile.

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Delaine
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Post   » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:33 pm


I am not sure when to give Zoe her medication. I wish I had them give her a dose when I went to the vet. Morning would be the best time because she would get the most benefit from it during the day.

I don't want to make her wait until tomorrow morning but if I give her some now I can't give her the next dose for 24 hours.

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Post   » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:56 pm


That is very interesting. Never heard of subluxation before! Hope she heals well and quickly.

Talishan
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Post   » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:53 am


Yes you can. Metacam dosing is a lot more flexible than vets want you to think it is.

When we've been in a situation like this, we'll give a half-dose (or a little more than a half-dose), then the second half-dose 12 (or so) hours later.

They're not exactly nature's most graceful creatures. ;-) Hope she heals up just fine.

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