possible urine scald

Post Reply
User avatar
jacqueline

Post   » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:47 pm


I guess I was thinking of the cranberry-ish one for UTIs. But wouldn't the acidity in the cranberry also help with sludge?

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:41 am


In theory, yes but in practice attempting to acidify their urine usually doesn't seem to help much.

I think you're referencing Oxbow's Critter Berries. I don't think they make them anymore? Not sure on that. A few of our pigs enjoyed them.

User avatar
LS in AK
Upside-down & Backwards

Post   » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:08 am


Just a note on the Oxbow urinary support tabs: they contain dandelion leaf, which often causes sludge in calcium challenged pigs.

I have observed an increase in chalky deposits in past pigs in response to feeding the tabs.

So, don't go that direction in treating Ginger-pig.

Frankly, I don't know what Oxbow was thinking in putting the ingredients together for that product.

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:08 am


Shoot. I'm glad you posted that. That's about the last thing that needs to be in a urinary support tablet for a guinea pig.

Dandelion is supposed to ease urinary discomfort (muscle relaxation? I think; some mechanism, anyway), but has way too much calcium to be used for that purpose in a cavy.

User avatar
meganmarie

Post   » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:35 pm


I haven't checked my own thread in a while, and whenever i don't, they always explode, haha. Sorry, guys! But i wanted to post here because Gingers toe is swollen and she's limping on it...? She's never had bumble foot, but her middle toe, on her right foot, is almost twice the size of the same toe on the other foot. It happened a few days ago, i called my local rescue to talk to the owner(she's a friend) and she suggested metacam for a few days(she also said it sounds like a broken toe.). I just wanted to get your input. Her toe is swollen, but only on the top knuckle(right below her toenail. I can feel a hard mass that almost feels like bone that is sticking out sideways(not through the skin, but...i don't know. it's knobby on the sides of her toe). That's all it is. I'll send pictures when my boyfriend gets home to help take them. It was red, but its a normal skin color now. She is no longer limping, but she isn't moving around as much and will lift her foot up and kind of hold it against herself for about 2 seconds every now and then. She is still on baytril, and today i took her off metacam.

User avatar
meganmarie

Post   » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:45 pm


The rescue also said she thinks is a facture. I forgot to mention i've been doing epsom salt soaks, too.

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:06 pm


Good about the Epsom salt soaks. I was going to suggest that.

User avatar
meganmarie

Post   » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:22 pm


Thank you. 4 times a day for 10 minutes.(the soaks, i mean)

User avatar
meganmarie

Post   » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:37 pm


Also, LS in AK, you vanished! haha, I've not seen you around recently! I'm glad you decided to post on my thread!

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:51 am


We are all glad LS is back. :-)

Be very careful with epsom salts. If piggy scratches an eye or grooms her face and gets any of the salt in her eye, it's extremely painful and can cause serious eye damage. Just be very careful, and epsom soaks can do a lot of good.

If it were me I'd restart her Metacam.

Post a pic when you can. If the foot is now normal color, that's good.

User avatar
LS in AK
Upside-down & Backwards

Post   » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:04 am


Aw, thanks for the kind words *blushes*

Sorry to hear Ginger-pig seems to have broken her toe (owie!) I would be interested in seeing pics, and agree that pain meds would probably help more than hurt at this point.

User avatar
meganmarie

Post   » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:17 am


Regular, normal, cute Ginger foot.

Image


Not normal, messed up, sad-mommy foot

Image


Excuse my boyfriends hands. He just got done welding.

User avatar
LS in AK
Upside-down & Backwards

Post   » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:04 am


Well, it is definitely swollen. Poor Ginger-pig :(

Do you think, perhaps, that she could have caught or stubbed her foot on something in the pen?

User avatar
meganmarie

Post   » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:10 am


Yes, i do. I use a Cube for their hay rack. It is bent in an L shape, with coroplast closing the open sides of the hay rack. The girls jump in it all of the time. I'm thinking that would be the biggest way for her to get hurt or fracture something.

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:21 pm


Perhaps you are doing so already, but primarily I would keep my eye on it for signs of infection. If it were infected, it would likely get redder and feel warmer to the touch than the other toes. It might be more tender/painful to touch too.

User avatar
Delaine
Supporter in '14

Post   » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:17 pm


My sow Zoe slipped and banged her foot jumping up into her floor time cage. I saw it happen. I didn't notice her limping but her toe nail went black and her toe was slightly swollen. I took her to the vet and they did an X-ray. The bones in her toe were slightly out of alignment. Her vet call it a subluxation of the toe.

She was given Metacam for 14 days but I discontinued it after 5 due to softer stools and the fact it really didn't seem to make a difference. She never did show any sign of discomfort.

If it doesn't get better I would think about getting an X-ray. My vet was concerned about the possibility of a tumor.

I am attaching a picture of Zoe's injured toe.

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=68906&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100

User avatar
meganmarie

Post   » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:16 pm


oh, owee. That looks so painful! Yes, i talked to my boyfriend, and he said that if it doesn't improve by this weekend we'll be going down(the the vets, i mean). The only sign of discomfort i see is sometimes when she is sat down on my chest when i pick her up, she'll pick her foot up off of my chest and hold it against her for about 1-2 seconds. It looks like she is just readjusting her foot, to get more comfortable.

Also, where it's 'swollen', well, its swollen, but there is also a hard like structure(i would almost say bone-like) in the toe. She doesn't react when you touch it, though. Just the normal squealing of, HOW DARE YOU TOUCH MY FOOT, HUMAN. She only really likes to be touched on her head.

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:14 pm


Here are your pics, Delaine:

Image

Image

User avatar
meganmarie

Post   » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:36 pm


Ginger is bleeding again. I turned them all out for floor time, so i could clean their cage, ect. My boy(Winter, he's fixed) had a strange pink smear on his face. Well, he's been after the girls all day, so i picked up Ginger to check. yup. Pink pee. I'm giving her .45 of baytril, and started syringing water again. I have KMS pellets, and KMS timothy hay. I'm feeding them a lower calcium diet, with 1/2 a cherry tomato, a small round of cucumber, a baby carrot, red bell peppers, and spring mix(which does have spinach). I'm at my wits end. She is healthy, eating, popcorning even. She just continously has these UTI's. I've gotten her checked for calcium in her urine, and she does have sludge, but no stones. I'm so frustrated.

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:51 pm


For reasons unknown to me, some pigs develop a propensity to well-set-in, repeating URI's.

Lots of times what does the trick finally is an extended course of ABs -- either Bactrim (usually) or Baytril (if Bactrim doesn't do the job) for at least 21 days, or 28 or 30 (as opposed to the usual 14).

Post Reply
223 posts