possible urine scald

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:27 pm


She's straining while peeing and pooping, and she is bleeding. A lot. I think she may have tried to/ is passing a stone, and i'm trying to get into my vet, and, if not, an emergency vet. this is the brightest and most blood i've ever seen. i'm so freaked out.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:40 pm


Hoping for the best for her!

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:49 pm


Thank you, Lynx. She passed a stone at the emergency vets. it was scary, and ginger is exhausted. She is okay right now, but again, she is really tired. She came home with metacam and baytril. I'm giving her medicine and passing out, because that was very stressful and tiring for me, too.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:57 pm


Glad to hear she passed it!

What is the Baytril for? Is there evidence of infection, or is it precautionary?

Keep a small bottle of orange juice (ours prefer pulp-free) in the fridge. If you don't normally drink it, just note the expiration date and replace it as needed.

PinkRufus first posted on here to give orange juice to a guinea pig who's experienced/is experiencing significant bleeding. (It's the same concept as when the Red Cross gives you orange juice and Nutter Butter cookies after donating blood.) We've needed it several times at our house and it has made a *big* difference in helping pigs who've experienced significant bleeding recover. Most pigs like it and will take several cc's readily from a syringe.

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meganmarie

Post   » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:53 pm


Oh, i'm so sorry. I was writing this late and on very little sleep. She is on baytril, and has been for about 2 weeks now. A few weeks ago she started with symptoms of a UTI, and so i was told to start her on baytril. I have been giving her good water, KMS pellets and hay, and mostly low calcium food(their lettuce((spring mix)) i get has spinach in it), which i am going to have to find some other lettuce to give. She was really lucky to pass this stone.

I always have orange juice in my home, because i drink it for breakfast every day or make breakfast smoothies with it. But i am worried about the calcium that is present in the orange juice i have on hand right now, so i'm going to have to look into a better type.

Also, any suggestions for a stone pig? I recently read something, somewhere, about a no pellet diet?

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:44 pm


Review the stones page for more info.

gl/stones.html

Bactrim works better for UTIs. If you find her appetite is deteriorating or her poops are getting mushy, it may be due to the Baytril.

gl/antibiotic_advice.html

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meganmarie

Post   » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:12 pm


Thank you, Lynx. I will.

Bactrim wasn't working with her, so i took her to get a urine culture. My vet said with the type of bacteria that was in her urine, that she should be on baytril. She always does pretty well on it, as well.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:37 pm


I am glad to hear that! Do you recall what bacteria it was that wasn't responding to the Bactrim and that the vet felt Baytril worked better on?

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meganmarie

Post   » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:49 pm


Not at all. In fact, i don't even recall him telling me the name of the bacteria. I was just worried about how long we were there and she hadn't eaten anything.

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:05 pm


So, these are the things that I am doing for Ginger. I am
1. Brita filtering her water. Our water has a ton of calcium in it(I think the guy called it hard water?)
2. I am changing lettuce from spring mix to red/green leaf lettuce.
I feed KMS hayloft pellets and hay, the pigs only get low calcium veggies(cucumber, lettuce, cherry tomato, carrot, peppers, occasional apple slice). I'm not sure if I should do something more, but that's where I am right now. If anybody has any other ideas, the ideas would be very much welcomed.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:44 pm


Plan to go outside and pick some nice fresh grass when spring shows up. Introduce slowly. Most guinea pigs really enjoy fresh, clean grass.

gl/forages.html

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meganmarie

Post   » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:56 pm


okay, awesome. : ) Thanks Lynx!

huh. We actually pick dandelion leaves to eat in my family. We have a spot we always pick at. That's awesome! Also, would the forages count as veggies for the day or as towards hay consumtion?

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:38 pm


Dandelions have too much calcium in them to feed more than a leaf or two. Chickweed would work well (I am picking chickweed daily right now for my chicken, who likes it). I think of fresh grass as a supplement rather than a replacement for fresh vegs. Variety provides more nutrients.

Talishan
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Post   » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:15 am


You're doing everything right. Ditto Lynx, but you're doing the right things.

Many GL members have had the best success with KM's pellets for stone- or sludge-prone pigs.

Look for an orange juice with no calcium added.

GrannyJu1
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Post   » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:07 pm


Regarding your water: "hard" simply means lots of iron, not necessarily calcium. I'm not sure calcium can actually be filtered out without using a very expensive RO system. Not positive of those either, to be honest. It's been 5 years since we looked into changing our filter system and I can't remember the fine details, since we didn't actually go for the change. That said, I "Brita" my pigs' water, too. They seem to drink more since I started doing that.

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meganmarie

Post   » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:10 pm


Well, we rent an apartment, so there's not even anything we could do with the water. I'll get a picture of the brita pitcher we just bought. I'm scared that it's not the right one.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Brita-Slim-Water-Filter-Pitcher-5-Cup/8470932

C Cole-Chakotay

Post   » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:17 pm


It sounds like you are giving your girl really good care. I'm glad to hear she passed the stone.

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meganmarie

Post   » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:54 pm


Thank you. I'm trying. These pigs are my babies, I'd do anything for them.



They also have a double layered cage. I only had water bottles in the bottom left corner. I bought two more and put them in the middle of the cage on the top. So now they have water everywhere they turn.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:38 am


Water everywhere they turn is a good idea. Try different size bottles; bottles placed at different heights in the cage, and bottles with different water heights (that is, don't fill it all the way to the top). The two girls we have right now drink best when the bottle is well less than half-full. Just check frequently to make sure they don't run out.

I am no water expert, but hard water has always been explained to me as being high in calcium carbonate, usually found in water in areas with lots of limestone. You can have water with lots of iron and other minerals in it without a lot of calcium carbonate -- IIRC Northern Wisconsin is like this.

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Delaine
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Post   » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:01 pm


I also have a sow prone to stones. I pretty much follow what you are doing. The only thing I can add is getting her moving as much as possible.

I think of a guinea pig's bladder as one of those snow globes we put out at Christmas. When you shake it the snow flies around and when you put it on the counter the snow settles to the bottom. The more our pigs can shake up the sludge in their urine through exercise and expel it the better. I feel sludge in a sedentary pig settles and has more chance to form into stones.

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