Peekaboo's Medical

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GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:01 pm


Thanks, everyone! I truly appreciate the feedback and suggestions. I'll put Peekaboo back on his daily dose, and worry about Fuzz next time she seems grouchy/in pain. He also gets the joint tabs. And digestive tabs. And extra Vit C. ;o)

As for the leg/foot/shoulder - it's always the left front. It will only last a day or two (knock on wood!) then goes away for a year or so. I can't remember where the vet said she/they saw the arthritis - all I can recall is something about "leg". If any of you know what arthritis looks like on x-rays, there are 2 sets posted on this thread.

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=71957&start=0

and

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=71957&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:56 pm


I wonder what might make the spring different. I was thinking about air pressure changes but they change all the time, depending on the weather.

Hoping the pain meds help.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:29 am


It did. He seemed fine last night after the second small dose, not limping, and putting weight on the foot again. I'll watch him closely later this morning and see how he's doing just before what will once again become his daily dose.

On the every other day dosage, he was actually running and playing again earlier this week. One day I was even in the room! It was a wonderful thing to see since he's not done it in so long.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:55 pm


Starting today, Peek will be getting double the usual (normal) amount of Vit. C per vet's orders. We'll see if this helps him get up and play more.

Riahrae

Post   » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:03 pm


Mocha bear sends get well licks to peek.

Hooe all goes well with the double amount of vit c for peek grannyju

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:22 pm


Thanks, Riahrae! Peek sends some flirtatious nudges back, lol. I'll keep ya'll informed of any changes, good, bad or ugly. ;o)

GrannyJu1
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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:09 pm


Glad to see that uptick in weight!

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:14 am


Peek's weight continues to drop:

Jan 1175
Feb 1139
March 1157
April 1146
May 1154
June 1063

In June I took Fuzzbutt out of his cage and put her with Scatter because of Flossie's death. I weighed daily for a week or 10 days but saw no real change in anyone's weight. However, looking back over the years, I'm becoming truly concerned for Peek. When I first started weighing him, he weighed almost 1300 grams and was (we think) 3 or 4 years old. Is this normal? Since these are averages (above) should I just wait to see what happens for the July average? From looking at the weekly weights, he'll still be in the mid 1000s for the month, similar to June's weights.

I think he's currently at least 6 years old. He's been getting Metacam on a regular basis for about 2 years due to arthritis. There has been no re-occurrence of the limp since I started giving him the medication daily. What other diseases (he has pea eye) other than heart disease should I be on the look out for? He's currently acting completely normal - sleeps lightly, eats the normal amount, and poops seem normal if a little dry or sometimes mushy, although being housed with another pig, VeBee, it's difficult to tell who is leaving what. I guess what I'm looking for is primer on aging pigs. :o)

Talishan
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Post   » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:09 pm


I can speak only from my own experience -- but the big boars (1300+ grams) have all lost weight as they aged. Most ended up in the 1000-1100 range, after some being as high as 1460+.

If arthritis is present, the drop helps relieve some pressure on the joints and connective tissue. Watch for heart; impaction (even if he's fixed), and normal defecation. We've had several to seem to benefit from a small daily dose of Reglan once over 6.5 y/o or so.

Extra C may help and won't hurt. Most senior animals (humans included) don't process the nutrients in food as well as they age.

Go by eating, drinking, urinating, defecating, and general moving and behavior. I freaked the first couple times this happened at our house. After a handful of them I stopped freaking **as long as they stabilized** at the lower weights. You can always have his teeth looked at, but if he's shown no change in how he eats **and his weight stabilizes**, they're probably fine.

If he *continues to lose* (or shows any input/output/behavior/personality change), vet trip.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:47 am


Thanks, Talishan! This helps a lot.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:55 am


Could we please keep this thread about Peekaboo? That was my original intention so that it would be easy to read back over his medical information.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:03 am


I broke off the unrelated comments and moved them to Cavy Chat.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:03 am


Thanks, Lynx.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:01 pm


Peek has just been diagnosed with kidney disease. I'm to give him 50 cc of fluid every other day. Does anyone else think that is a VERY large amount for a little guinea pig? I go in tomorrow morning for a lesson from one of our cat's vet techs. She'll watch me administer it to make sure I'm doing it right. Still... 50 cc??

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:21 pm


It sounds like a lot. Read over www.guinealynx.info/subcue.html

I quoted Talishan:
"Don't try to push more than 25-35 cc's at one time. More will make her very uncomfortable. ER vets will push 60-70 mls at once in cases of severe dehydration, but that's an extreme case."
I hope Peek responds well to the additional fluids.

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mmeadow
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Post   » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:25 pm


Agreed, that's too much at once. And why every other day? A daily subcue of 25cc makes more sense to me.

Talishan
You can quote me

Post   » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:14 am


Don't push that much at one time!!

We had one supposedly exotics vet push 70 with one of ours. It certainly didn't help her; it made her horribly uncomfortable and may actually have hurt her.

25 cc daily is not unreasonable; however, caveat: some pigs get used to it, and others progressively become more and more upset. There seems not to be anything in the middle.

My personal judgment with the ones that became progressively more stressed out and unhappy was that it wasn't worth it. If Peek gets used to it, great; if not, supplement with oral fluids. Try different bottled waters; try offering fluids by syringe cold. Try different size water bottles; try filling the bottles to different levels; try hanging them higher or lower.

Try offering unflavored Pedialyte by syringe; many pigs love this and will readily slurp down 10 cc's or more at a time. If you can manage that twice a day, you're fine.

A note about subcues: it's a blue nightmare the first couple times. It DOES get easier with practice. After the first one you'll likely be beside yourself. It DOES repeat DOES get smoother and easier with practice, and pretty quickly too.

Warm the fluids first in a hot-water bath. Fluids at about the same temp you'd give a baby (inner wrist test from olden days ;-) are much more comfortable for the pig.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:51 pm


Peek took it like a champ - not a single sound out of him. This first time at least.

I think I got about 20cc in him; would have been more but apparently I accidently pulled the needle out and caused fluid to go everywhere. The second time I poked him I drew blood which made me nervous and I again pulled the needle out. The 3rd time I got some more fluid in him but then it started running out everywhere again. That's when I decided enough was enough. I'll do better next time - tomorrow. My cat vet sold me a smaller syringe so maybe I'll have better control.

On a side note, the vet who is purchasing the clinic is putting serious thought into expanding out from cats and dogs. Yay! I know the tech who helped us today has experience with guinea pigs.

My thanks to all of you who gave me advice and links for where to go for more.

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mmeadow
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Post   » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:52 pm


I'd say you've done better than the typical first experience--you have gotten most of the screw ups out of the way already. There's also: dealing with major squirming; going all the way through the other side of the pinched zone and stabbing yourself instead of the pig! With luck, you won't encounter those problems with Peekaboo.

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