Scatter's Medical

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:03 pm


Scatter and Floss may both be working on developing urine scald. I first noticed it on Scatter several weeks ago, and was watching it because I didnt' know what it was or if it would simply wash off. Did some washing/wiping and his seems to have disappeared now. No excuses, if they are both developing it, it must be my fault - either the felt isn't working as well as I'd hoped (mostly using it now as opposed to a more mixed felt/uhaul pad), or I'm just not keeping it changed often enough. Starting NOW, that changes.

bpatters
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Post   » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:05 pm


Does felt wick? If it feels wet itself, it's not a suitable bedding.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:39 pm


That was the first thing I checked for when I first had the idea to use felt. It does absorb. I used it successfully for about 6 months in the floor cages. But since I've had to go back to higher cages, they seem to only lay in one corner of the hay especially, or behind/under stools/cardboard boxes in the other 2 choice corners. Their cage (2X5 so theoretically large enough) just doesn't seem to offer much area for me to move hideys around enough. IMO. I'll start using more washable pads until I can afford to completely replace the felt in the flippers, because I can't seem to keep either cage from smelling in certain corners either. The other option would be to put carefresh in the hay area.

I don't think my tables are big enough to support the weight of your wood pellets. They are just a few inches too narrow, so we've put 1X6 boards under the edges so I don't break down the corners when I lean, and yes, I do have to use them to support some of my weight during cleaning. We're discussing ways and means of lowering the tables a few inches now, then I could go back to using the walls for support.

bpatters
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Post   » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:48 pm


Absorb, or wick? They're two different things.

An absorbent material soaks up the liquid. A wicking material pulls the liquid through to an absorbent layer, and stays dry itself. You want wicking, not absorbing.

I don't have any felt, or I'd test it to see.

Talishan
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Post   » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:01 am


Good luck. I understand your frustration. I have never been able to get any cloth product to work right, although plenty of folks on here have so don't give up.

We use Carefresh, but it costs a blue fortune.

My husband has back problems and leans heavily on the cage sides in certain spots. If you have the cage put together with connectors, reinforce them with zip ties just below the connector (at the top) and just above (at the bottom). Doing that has given me some peace of mind.

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Jaycey
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Post   » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:29 am


I always recommend zip ties anyway. Literally the day after I built my 2x7 with a 2x7 on top I tripped over and flew headfirst into it and I'm not what you would class as petite.

It didn't collapse although most of the connectors fell out. It had gone all wonky but it was still held together by the zip ties.

Better safe than sorry. I'd rather have a few impressive bruises than a collapsed cage.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:29 pm


You are so right, Jaycee. Bumps and bruises on me is much better than bumps, bruises and worse on my babies. I promptly went in and zipped them all together. Ashamed to say I hadn't done that before. Thanks to both of you for the reminder.

I used to use Carefresh too. Then switched to fleece. I still keep a couple of bags on hand in case of emergencies, but because of the cost, I try to keep the fleece in use. For now, I've made some pads to change every day. Whatever it is, it seems to be clearing up already.

Talishan
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Post   » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:07 pm


Excellent.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Sun May 22, 2016 2:59 pm


Scatter turned 3 yrs old in April, and is neutered. He started the year 1400+ grams, but for this last month he's been 1200+ grams.

100+ grams seems a lot to me. Is this something I should worry about, or just watch? At what point should I go into action?

No diet changes; no changes in intake or output. Only change this year has been to a smaller (2x5 grid) cage, and is now on a table instead of the floor.

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Sun May 22, 2016 6:07 pm


Have you evaluated his weight using the vet guidelines on this page?
gl/weigh.html

She wrote up some great guidelines for evaluating weight!

Talishan
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Post   » Mon May 23, 2016 4:06 pm


Ditto. What's your impression of his body condition?

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:03 pm


I'm sorry, Talishan. I missed your question! Scatter's weight and body condition seem fine to me. He bounces between 1275 and 1300 (+/-) in a month's time. I'm not worried about his weight.

However, since he is now showing a dirty spot on his bottom (along with Flossie), the vet thinks they just aren't moving enough and he's thinking it's due to insufficient Vit. C. Per his orders, Scatter will now be getting double the normal Vit. C (2 tabs or .4cc of liquid). Hopefully this will help get him up and running more. I'm also going to increase the Vit. C foods, mainly bell pepper.

I did take the water bowl out of the cage so he could run more freely. That has seemed to help, too. I've seen him run some laps lately.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:29 pm


It appears that Scatter has broken both front upper teeth out, possibly to the gum-line, since I can't see any white. I realized this morning he couldn't get any food into his mouth to chew. I tried putting it into the back corner of his mouth, but he didn't want it there, and I was trying to feed him in the cage. A bit later, I did manage to get 40-60 cc of Critical Care into him (and/or on us). He does eat some by himself from a plate, but not enough. It's been about 5 hours since then; he's eaten another 15-20 cc from the plate, and I managed to force another 10 or so into with another 10 on us instead of in. Soon as the husband gets home, we'll force another 40-60 into him. Poor guy is so hungry!

Now to prepare to have his molars planed. How fast do those grow?

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:39 pm


I think the teeth in general grow pretty fast. Pictures of the incisors here:

gl/teeth_broken.html

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:34 pm


Managed to get a good look at his teeth this morning. Lowers are fine; upper (his) left is broken in half and right is broken to the gum with a little white showing and a small amount of blood.

Food-wise: if he can get a piece of hay turned just right so it's crosswise, he can eat it. If I roll up the lettuce and spinach cigar-like and cram it into his mouth, he can eat it. Things like parsley he has no trouble except keeping it away from Flossie while he gets it down. CC - he'll eat a little, then no more. I managed to get 15 to 20 ml down him early this morning; tried again a few minutes ago and he fought me all the way. Biting and jerking his head around so we ended up wearing it instead. I know I read to hold his head just behind the jaw but how do you do that without hanging the poor thing, because the whole time, he's trying to pull away and bite.

He lost about 20 grams overnight.

bpatters
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Post   » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:38 pm


You put your non-dominant arm on a table that's a comfortable height for you. You drape a towel over the table and your arm, and put the pig on the towel.

Then you wrap him snugly in the towel, and use your non-dominant hand to hold his head. That keeps him from backing away from you, and also from biting you.

You put the syringe in his mouth from the side, behind his front teeth and in front of his back teeth, insert a little less than a half inch, turn it toward his throat, and give him about .25-.5 cc at a time.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:41 pm


Thanks, bpatters. The table bit was what I forgot. :o>

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:44 am


Made it into the vet on the 5th. She looked over his teeth, checked his lungs and heart - the usual. She is a bit concerned over the jagged tooth and thinks we might have to have it trimmed in a week or 2 if it doesn't smooth out. She gave me some metacam for him (0.34 cc of 1.5mg 10ml Ang Metacam), which was something I hadn't even thought about (bad Momma!!).

He's eating well. Can pick up and eat the softer parts of the lettuce leaf. Can easily eat spinach (fortunately he's not a stone pig) and tries but can't get the hang of eating bell pepper or carrots. I'm supplementing with CC, which he readily takes from both a spoon and a syringe.

I went looking around the area where I thought the incident had happened and found the whole tooth; nothing of the half. I'm pretty sure I know what happened. One of my cats is curious about the guinea pigs and loves to sit and watch them. This time she must have been close enough to poke Scatter in the nose when he stuck it between the grids, and he jerked back. He's much less curious about her these days. :o( Poor little guy.

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Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:30 am


I am so glad the teeth grow back! If not, we would have one ton of guinea pigs in trouble!

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:23 am


Checked Scatter's teeth today. They are both there and looking good, if a little short, edges of teeth are even.

Also, he has once again re-claimed the title of biggest pig in our house - 1326 grams!

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