Foster deformed poop

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Fri May 11, 2018 11:17 am


bpatters wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 10:09 am
I'm not an x-ray technician, and the x-ray is pretty small. But it seems to me that the roots are elongated. What did the vet say?
You can right click the image and open it in a new tab, it will get bigger.

The vet said nothing about elongated root yet, I will ask her. How to deal with elongated roots? Extracting the teeth?

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri May 11, 2018 8:43 pm


Look over this page to see what you think about possible elongation (and how it is treated):
http://www.guinealynx.info/elongated_roots.html

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Fri May 11, 2018 9:43 pm


Foster is at home now, he did his first teeth planning, but my anxiety strikes when I remember what me and Flake has been through, and my money is runnig out, I read many topics about malocclusion, and the treatment failure rate seems to be higher than sucessful, this makes me sad... I hope Foster can get better faster, the vet said he doesn't have elongated root, but maybe she is wrong?

I took a look at the page, but I still have no idea if he has elongated roots comparing the x-rays, his left eye used to be watery and irritaded (for like a year, I'm not sure), this could be a sign, but it used to get better and come back randomly, he also always ate normally...

Can someone with more experience compare to me?


This is Foster x-ray.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri May 11, 2018 10:21 pm


Here is the picture from the guide:
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I think it looks bumpier than your xray in the jaw area. Run your fingers along the jaw line to see if it feels bumpy. The upper molars do look similar. Perhaps Pinta could comment on whether both the upper and lower molars were elongated (I think this is her xray).

Let me know if you'd like your xrays added to your thread for future readers.

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Fri May 11, 2018 11:21 pm


Of course Lynx, add them, tomorrow the vet will send me the photos of before and after the trimming and I will post them for you.

I ran my fingers in his jaw and I couldn't notice any bump, I hope Pinta can confirm if this x-ray has elongated roots in bottom or upper molars (or both).

Also, I tried to give him some lettuce/grass, he wanted to take it but couldn't because she probably cut his incisors too short... He is still sleepy from the anesthesia, I will hand feed him tomorrow as today he seems really off himself.

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Post   » Sat May 12, 2018 11:30 am


You are welcome to write Pinta and ask her (can send her to this thread). I think her xray is pretty old - I hope she remembers!

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Sat May 12, 2018 12:31 pm


Thanks Lynx, I sent her a PM and ae- mail, she thinks he has elongated roots, but asked my vet to e-mail Dr. Legendre to confirm.

Meanwhile, Foster is managing to eat already, as she cut his incisors too short, he can't pick up food properly, but if I hold it he can do it, also he already ate a bit of pellet mash, his recovery is looking better than Flake's one.

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Post   » Sat May 12, 2018 4:46 pm


I hate when the incisors are cut too short! There are some vets who do not realize how difficult it makes eating.

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Sat May 12, 2018 7:38 pm


Yes... it's definitely too short, I have to cut veggies really tiny for him, he would probably be eating a good amount of food already if it wasn't the short incisors.

I checked his jaw for bumps again, and this time I could feel a really tiny bump on both sides at the same point, are enlogated roots symmetrical?

Also, how elongated roots are treated? Only Chin-Sling would work? Could he still manage to eat normally if it's not too elongated? Trimming the teeth would reduce the elongation?

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Post   » Sat May 12, 2018 8:37 pm


I think some of your questions are answered on the page link I posted about elongated roots.
http://www.guinealynx.info/elongated_roots.html

I would check out other guinea pigs to see how their jawbones feel to see if it is normal or not.

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Sun May 13, 2018 2:13 pm


I checked my other pig that is eating normally and he also have this little bump, so I think it's probably not a elongated root.

I noticed that Foster is keep chewing even if he is not eating, could it be food remains or something is bothering him? He did that even before the surgery.

I'm avoiding to hand feed him as he is managing to keep weight, but if I see a weight drop I will hand feed him, the thing is that food drops from his mouth sometimes and he has difficult to pull the food inside... It's probably because the short incisors, right?

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Post   » Sun May 13, 2018 5:04 pm


Yes, I am guessing it is related to the incisors. Usually if the incisors are too long, the molars are too. I think you know that already.

I noticed years ago chewing motion when not eating. Not sure what it means.

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Sun May 13, 2018 11:24 pm


Foster is doing good, he managed to gain 10g today, don't sound a lot but it's good that he isn't losing weight as I'm not hand feeding him.

Here is a video of him eating, you can see that he has difficult but he still manages to do it! I'm also getting a Chin-Sling this week as any help is welcome.

Foster eating 2 days after teeth trimming


One thing that worries me is that his left eyes get this 'crusty' thing, it dries and get hard and he lose some hair around his eye when me or he cleans it, I noticed it on the right eye too some weeks ago, but it's the left eye that have this problem the majority of the time.
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Any of you have any idea of what this can be? It's been a long time that his left eye get irritated, but this crust is more recent, it also radomly goes away for a short period.

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Post   » Sun May 13, 2018 11:49 pm


I'd guess fungal infection around the eye. In the U.S., you'd need a vet prescription for something safe to use around the eye, but I don't know about Brazil. The good news is that eyes are eyes are eyes, so you don't necessarily need an exotic vet if you don't have one.

I'd insist on an ointment that's safe for the eye rather than an oral preparation. Oral fungal meds are really rough on anybody's system, human or animal, and since guinea pig digestive tracts are pretty sensitive, I'd hesitate to use one.

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Post   » Mon May 14, 2018 8:42 am


It is also possible a tear duct is blocked and the normal cleaning fluid is crusting and irritating the skin.

Here are a couple closeups cropped from your pics:






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Atomicoxy

Post   » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:26 pm


Hello, it's me again, Foster was recovering good, was eating on his own, but probably not enough Hay, so yesterday he had to do another teeth planning, this time was worse, as he has a injury on his mouth... And he also has pneumonia/URI, he's on Baytril and pain medicines, his breathe is getting a little better, but it is still somewhat wheezing and he has difficult to breathe, I'm dropping saline in his nostrilsevery now and then.

How long will this pneumonia/URI stay? Any idea? Does the breathing normally stay 'heavy' when they have URIs? He was at the vet and she said it's pneumonia and baytril will to the job.

Thanks in advance.

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Post   » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:04 pm


If the drugs are effective against whatever is causing the pneumonia, he should improve. If you are not seeing improvement in a day or so, I would call and talk to your vet. Sometimes nebulizing drugs like gentomycin can help improve breathing.

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:16 pm


Hi, Foster is getting slowly better from pneumonia, his breathing is more 'soft', but he still only eats critical care, and his poop is like that now:

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Saturday was something like that but in less quantity, it got better to small and dry poos, and now it's like that, is that catarrh? I also noticed that his right eye is kind of 'shrinking', it's more deep in his eye ball, I don't know how to correctly explain it. Any idea of what I can do? I called the vet and she said I should try to introduce fiber in his diet, but he can't manage to eat anything but pellet mash in syringe.

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Post   » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:41 pm


The shrunken eye is almost certainly a sign of dehydration. Syringe him water if he's not drinking enough. It may help to flavor it with something he likes. All my pigs have been willing to kill for anything that tastes like watermelon.

Is he still on an antibiotic? If so, it may need to be stopped. That kind of watery stool can debilitate him in a hurry.

How much pellet mash are you able to get into him?

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Atomicoxy

Post   » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:04 pm


bpatters wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:41 pm
The shrunken eye is almost certainly a sign of dehydration. Syringe him water if he's not drinking enough. It may help to flavor it with something he likes. All my pigs have been willing to kill for anything that tastes like watermelon.

Is he still on an antibiotic? If so, it may need to be stopped. That kind of watery stool can debilitate him in a hurry.

How much pellet mash are you able to get into him?
I'm giving him water in syringe, but it's probably not enough... Yes, he's still on antibiotics, tomorrow is the last day, he still not breathing 100% but it's better, also, sometimes fluids comes out of his nose. About the mash, I'm not sure how many cc i'm giving him a day, but it's probably not enough, as I started a job now and I am the only at home that manages to handfeed him... I will do my best to get this guy good again.

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