First Angel...now it's Elsie..crying when peeing.!

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GP Lover
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Post   » Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:34 pm


Angel got spayed on Tuesday because she had ovarian cysts.

Now Elsie is crying when she pees! She is going to have an ultrasound. I can't believe this is happening again so soon!

Angel seems to be recovering well. She ate in the car on the way home and continues to eat well and move around a bit. She is in a separate cage with a smaller area to hang in until she gets her stitches out next week.

Just now, Angel whimpered when she peed. Is this to be expected as a post-op side effect? Does anybody know?

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:46 pm


I don't remember Snowflake whimpering when peeing but I don't remember well. I would think things might be sore. I hope it doesn't mean anything.

Elsie is crying now? They are related, right? I hope you are able to get a correct diagnosis right away. I'm sorry she may have problems too. This has to be hard on you all.

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SusieQ
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Post   » Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:47 pm


I'm sorry. I hope that both Angel and Elsie will be fine and have uneventful recoveries.

GP Lover
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Post   » Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:49 pm


Yup! Elsie's crying now!! I am so upset. I really feel sick about this happening again to another one and so soon! I still have Angel recuperating.

No, Angel and Elsie aren't related. Elsie is Sophie's daughter.

Evangeline

Post   » Sat Aug 23, 2003 11:02 am


Damn! When it rains, it pours, huh? On the plus side, this time, you know the drill and you can tell the vets to cut the crap and get to the point sooner.

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Becky

Post   » Sat Aug 23, 2003 12:05 pm


You might have an x-ray done first to rule out stones/sludge.

I know how you feel. Cookie was just coming out of her last surgery when I heard Chippy do the same whimpering and hunching when she peed. I truly thought I was creating it in my own mind.

Good luck.

GP Lover
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Post   » Sat Aug 23, 2003 4:52 pm


Yup, I know the drill this time. Thanks for your support guys. It really means a lot. This is very upsetting. I worry about Elsie going through surgery because she's so fat (3.2lbs) and she's a feisty one. I even worry about the ultrasound. If she doesn't cooperate for it they'll have to give her some anesthesia. So, I've been practicing with her! I put her on her back on a soft pillow and rub her belly and get her to calm down and get a bit used to that.

Getting an x-ray would cost me $145. I might as well go right for the ultrasound. I do feel a tiny lump which I suspect may be a stone but at least she'll be checked for cysts as well.

She's going Monday for the ultrasound. Today I started her on Baytril.

GP Lover
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Post   » Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:17 pm


Well, the news is rather bad:

-She has enlarged and lumpy mammary glands
-She has an enlarged uterus
-She has something abnormal looking in her bladder

The ultrasound technician was able to get a urine sample directly from her bladder to be cultured.

The vet is going to aspirate the mammary glands and tomorrow she will have the results back from a lab.

She is scheduled for surgery on Thursday. She will have to be spayed for sure and tomorrow I'll know more about the mammary gland problem. The vet said it could be hormonal and fixed by the spay or it could be a tumor.

I'm so upset! I don' t want to loose my baby, Elsie.

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Becky

Post   » Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:22 pm


Keep hoping. The surgery might solve her problems.

Good thoughts coming your and Elsie's way.

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:39 pm


I know this news is not welcome. But I am glad you were able to get as much information as you did and are not going to go through the extended time to diagnose the problems which was hard on you and your other cavy.

I hope the surgery goes well. And more than anything, I hope a spay takes care of it all.

GP Lover
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Post   » Mon Aug 25, 2003 3:09 pm


Well, I just went to pick up Elsie. The vet said she looked at the aspirate from the mammary glands and she said it looked good. She still wants to send it out to a lab to confirm however.

I asked her if with all of Elsie's problems is her spay still going to be considered more or less routine and she said yes.

Wow, Angel was the guinea pig for Elsie. The vet did a great job for Angel so let's hope it goes as well for Elsie! Thursday Angel gets her stitches out and gets to go back in the cage with Sophie who will be saying bye bye to Elsie who is getting spayed that same day. WHEW! What an ordeal.

When I'm done with the two of them I will have spent about $2,000 but I love my girls and would do anything for them.

I just hope Sophie stays healthy!

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:03 pm


Wow. The comforting thing is spays often result in a complete cure and years of healthy living. I hope they both recover well. You TOO can be one of our experts!

GP Lover
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Post   » Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:31 pm


Well, one thing I've learned. If you have a female and you can afford it, get an ultrasound. Look at all the things discovered about Elsie from it. I could have dismissed it as a UTI simply because she has stopped whimpering when she pees after being on Baytril for 3 days. I suspected that there was more going on with her so that's why I just called up and scheduled the ultrasound.

I can't afford all this vet care and it is tapping me out financially but they're worth it to me. The credit card is coming out on Thursday anyway.

Getting two piggies spayed and then home safe and sound...priceless.

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Becky

Post   » Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:21 pm


I think Josephine might have brought this up earlier?

Maybe there are so many reproductive problems in these sows because they've never had a litter? Seems like spays are becoming almost routine.

Still good thoughts headed your way for your piggers.

GP Lover
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Post   » Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:16 am


Update: I noticed yesterday at lunchtime that Elsie had lost her appetite. So, I gave her Critical Care. I gave her more at dinnertime that I mixed with Strawberry/Apple baby food. Then, late last night she ate quite a bit of red leaf lettuce.

This morning she again ate some lettuce and some strawberry but now she has diarrhea. She does eat hay as well. I stopped the Baytril. Her last dose was yesterday morning.

Please tell me what I can do today about the diarrhea. She's having surgery tomorrow!

If I should give her a poop from one of the other girls, it can be any poop, right?

Charybdis

Post   » Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:36 am


Ideally it should be one of the lighter, softer, "special" poops. But the freshest poops you can get are the best you can do. I don't know if that alone will halt diarrhea, but I would give up to 5 poops. Is the diarrhea bad? Do you have any diarrhea medicine? I have given .10 cc of children's kaopectate for diarrhea.

Charybdis

Post   » Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:43 am


I would also give her some fluids. If you can't do SQ, then Pedialyte.

Another thought is that you might call the vet in the a.m. to discuss possibly rescheduling the surgery. Diarrhea can weaken them considerably in a short time.

GP Lover
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Post   » Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:51 am


Thanks for the reply. How do I get one of those soft poops? I have three girls and here's the situation: I have never seen Elsie or Sophie eat a poop. I have seen Angel dive down between her legs quite often and eat one. So, how do I get one for Elsie???

I'll go home at lunch and see how she is. I'll have to isolate her to see if she's pooping or not. The diarrhea was pretty mushy and smelly.

I will call the vet later this afternoon to see if we should reschedule the surgery. I don't want to compromise her chances of a good recovery.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:16 am


I had this awful sense of dejavu. Realized it was another poster, not you with a second thread. Yes, if there is diarrhea, you may need to reschedule surgery.

I one time and one time only got a bunch of what I thought were special poops when I bathed Kitten. They just slipped out and seemed lighter in color. Maybe a good scare? (kidding) I don't actually know a good method for getting those special poops so a regular fresh poop might be better. Meanwhile, I imagine you are withholding vegs.

GP Lover
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Post   » Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:48 am


I think I made a mistake giving her the red leaf lettuce last night and this morning. I didn;t know she would get diarrhea. I suspect it's from the Baytril which I stopped as of yesterday morning. I am hoping to have her system back to normal by tonight!

What can I feed her?

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