Hard lump under chin, soft poop as well?

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Gracemackenz

Post   » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:28 pm


Ok. I'm going to be quarantining them for now, to be safe and to let them get used to the new environment. They're in a 2x5 for now.

GrannyJu1
Armcavy

Post   » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:49 am


Has JJ been checked for any physical problems? If she's just suddenly started being aggressive after being sociable for a while, she may have some hidden problem such as ovarian cysts (just an example off the top of my head). Before taking the drastic step of separating them, I'd have her checked by a qualified exotics vet to make sure she's healthy.

Gracemackenz

Post   » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:42 am


No she hasn't. I'll put that into consideration, but she always has been very very dominant. It's to the point that I think Rosie is kind of sad or something. I haven't even thought of it being a physical problem..

I think I'm going to introduce all the pigs in a week or two and see what happens (JJ being nicer, not being as dominant towards Rosie, etc.). I know that's risky if it could be a physical problem, but I just want to rule out all the other options before spending money on something that could potentially be nothing but behavioral problems.

Talishan
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Post   » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:54 am


I see what you're saying and understand your logic. With guinea pigs, though, in general that's reversed.

You want to ensure there are no physical problems before assuming it's behavioral, because as prey animals guinea pigs are wired by nature not to overtly show physical distress lest they be more likely to be eaten.

My $0.02.

Gracemackenz

Post   » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:01 pm


I'm holding one of my new pigs (her name is penny), and I noticed something weird about her fur/skin around her butt. The fur kind of comes out in chunks, and it looks really dry or something on the base of the fur. I don't know what it could be, I'll add pictures once I figure out how to.. I forgot how to add pictures, sorry

I don't know if it could of been from what happened to her before she lived with a foster family (I don't know her back story), or mites maybe?

Gracemackenz

Post   » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:49 pm


Sorry for the double post again, but we are arranging an appointment to see if penny has mites. If she does, we are going to treat nickel as well (our other new pig).

I read the link about mites, and it says that misdiagnosis is common. I was wondering if that's the case and if I wanted to get ivermectin or another medication to get rid of the mites, does it require a prescription? Or can I just buy it at the pet store?

bpatters
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Post   » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:44 pm


Don't let a vet do a skin scraping for mites. It's very painful for the pig, misses the mites half the time, and the end result is the same -- treat the pig for mites. Treat all your pigs, in fact. But why do you even think they have mites?

The loss of fur is as likely to be a fungus as it is to be mites, especially if the hair is coming out in chunks.

See gl/fungus.html for the shampoos you can use to treat fungus. You can order the ivermectin from Amazon -- this is what you want: https://www.amazon.com/Durvet-Ivermectin-Ermectin-Pour-Cattle/dp/B00JAL3AAW/ref=sr_1_4

Here are the directions for treating with that ivermectin: www.guinealynx.info/topical_ivermectin_pour-on.html

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:30 pm


Both mites and fungus are very common. A guinea pig may have both problems.

Gracemackenz

Post   » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:39 pm


I've just been reading up on the signs of mites, and penny has all of them. Excessive itching, dandruff looking skin, loss of hair... I'd rather it be a fungal infection, but I won't know until we go to the vet.

Talishan
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Post   » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:56 am


Honestly -- if it were me I'd treat for mites myself, first; then treat for fungal, myself, first, before going to a vet.

Normally we will encourage vet visits here for any question or issue that may be serious. Mites and fungal problems, though, are so common, and the materials needed for treatment so readily available, that I'd treat myself first and save your vet fund money, the stress on the pig, and the stress on you.

Treat for mites first. If after a full course of mite treatment the issues haven't fully resolved, then treat for fungal.

bpatters
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Post   » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:13 am


Ditto Talishan.

Gracemackenz

Post   » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:53 pm


So we're at the vet right now.. nickel has a little abscess and penny has something to do with the scent glands? Thank gosh it's not mites or anything too serious. The vet said what penny has is very easy to take care of. They're doing a tape test on penny, I think that's better than a skin scraping.

Erinspigs

Post   » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:14 pm


Very good to hear you are getting to the bottom of it all. Not to be a worry wart but with guinea pigs even the most mundane and seemingly benign ailment can cause bigger problems. so keep a close eye, and as Lynx always reminds us, do weigh and monitor them often.

You seem to be going about caring for them correctly and I hope they heal quickly. Without reading back I’m not sure if anyone has posted about abscesses which can be tricky. They tend to heal in a counterintuitive way. Instead of me mucking it up, here's a link that might help

http://www.guinealynx.info/abscess.html

Gracemackenz

Post   » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:38 pm


My youngest piggy has an abscess, that's what this whole chat thing started off with. I am going to be flushing Nickels abscess as well as giving her bactrim, just to be safe!

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:19 pm


A tape test is not likely to show up mites but at least it is not as painful as a skin scraping.

Generally, a vet will go by signs vs. relying on skin scrapings to diagnose mites.

gl/mites.html

Gracemackenz

Post   » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:51 pm


She did a test for mites, and she was mite free. I don't know what she did exactly, but I'm still looking out for more symptoms of mites to make sure.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:17 pm


I have veterinary books that claim skin scrapings are inaccurate. Mites are microscopic. They move from one part of the skin to another. Ivermectin (most commonly used to treat mites) has a pretty good safety record.

If you are seeing signs of mites, your vet should have automatically treated for them.

Gracemackenz

Post   » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:19 pm


So I've been doing introductions for about an hour and a half, and JJ isn't getting a long with the other pigs at all. She's constantly fighting nickel and penny. I've decided to do a few introductions and see if it gets any better, and if not, I'll keep the pigs cages how they are right now until I come up with a plan..

I'm most likely going to add a separated to the cage, to separate JJ from the rest, but JJ can still communicate and see the other pigs. Or I might just leave it how it is; nickel and penny to one cage and JJ and Rosie to another.

I wish it would have worked out.

bpatters
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Post   » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:31 pm


You haven't given it nearly enough time to see if it will work out. You need to schedule several hours, not an hour and a half, for introductions. My last introductions took 11 hours when I was introducing a single pig to an established pair.

If by "fighting" you mean that she's chasing and mounting and nipping, that's perfectly normal, and no reason to separate. You should should only separate if they are turning into rolling, biting, balls of fur.

Gracemackenz

Post   » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:15 pm


That's what they were. I'm going to do introductions again tomorrow and Tuesday, maybe Wednesday.

Also, are there any signs that they will/will not get along? I know that constant fighting shows they probably won't get along, but is there anything else I should look out for?

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