Boadicea - another non-conformist - Medical thread

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PooksiedAnimals
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Post   » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:20 am


Boadicea is supposedly 3-4 year old unaltered sow. I occasionally found tiny spots of blood in the cage that I figured were from her. This probably started up a year ago? She never cried when peeing. After Cannoli died, I never found any calcium sludge in the cage. So I kept an eye on her, kept her on a low calcium diet and left it as is.

In the summer, when I brought Wedgwood in for her first wellness visit, I had the vet look over Boadicea. At that point I'd her Boadi cry every so often - like once or twice a week. But when I'd investigate I wouldn't see any blood. If I could see the pee, it looked normal. Still had the random spot of blood - it would tend to appear several times one week, then not happen again for weeks.

Vet examined her, xrayed her, found no evidence of sludge or stones. Couldn't get her to pee. Nothing to be done.

In October, Boadi had a bad couple of days - suddenly crying was multiple times a day. I couldn't tell if it was when she's peeing or not. Pee looked clear, not bloody, but I did find a spot of blood later. Often, after crying, she'd reach down like she was grabbing a poo. And that would be the end of it. She looks fine, weight is good. Nothing obvious.

I brought her in again. Insisted something is wrong. Xrays and ultrasound showed nothing (in fact, the vet had a hard time locating the bladder it was so small). I bought home a dose of Baytril in case it was infection. The crying stopped for a day or so, but then started up again before the course of antibiotics was done.

It's so random. It's not stones. It's not a UTI. I'm guessing something with the digestive tract? I'm bringing in poo for a fecal test on Thursday. The vet wonders if it's intussusception.

Any ideas? I'm mostly throwing this out there to start keeping track of Boadicea's symptoms and to see if anyone else has gone through this. Long post - sorry. Thanks for reading.

Bookfan
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Post   » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:03 am


I'm assuming the xrays ruled out problems in the reproductive tract?

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PooksiedAnimals
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Post   » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:48 pm


She didn't say one way or the other. But I'm sure that was on her mind, too. I'd be surprised if she didn't look. But I will follow up on that next if we still can't pinpoint the problem.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:41 pm


This is a challenge. Nothing that looked like sludge?

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PooksiedAnimals
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Post   » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:07 pm


Nothing. Not in her bladder, not in her pee, no lumps of it in the cage.

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Post   » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:59 pm


Since I have your thread up (for another reason), I thought I'd ask how she is doing. Still having the same signs? Better? Worse? Have you tried any Bactrim?

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Post   » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:47 pm


Ooh, it's been a while. Let's see. We've actually had two days of not crying (which means I've probably jinxed us). There's been no blood or even any kind of sludge in several weeks. I started keeping a food journal, and discovered she cried more after eating some winter squash. This makes me think that it's something with the digestive tract - either a tumor somewhere, or - can pigs get IBS? I wondered if the extra fiber bothered her. On those thoughts, I've been giving her some probiotics the last few days. We have not tried bactrim.

Her weight is down a bit, but she's holding steady at a good weight for a few weeks. The vet had run all of the standard tests (xrays, ultrasound, checked uterus/bladder areas, fecal test). I'm kind of waiting for a change, then go back for another round of ultrasound and xrays, having her really focused on tumors.

Boadi doesn't seem uncomfortable, otherwise has a good appetite. So still a mystery, still a holding pattern, but I think we're in a good place for now.

Thanks for asking!

GrannyJu1
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Post   » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:17 pm


Great news!

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:00 pm


I personally think intestines can be very touchy and have lots of nerve endings in them. I think of people with diverticulitis where (if I have it right) pockets in the intestines can catch food and cause pain. I like the idea of adding probiotics - should not hurt and will hopefully help. Oh, and have you ever noticed her being slightly gassy? (also a possible source of pain).

Anyway, good news is always wonderful to hear!

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Post   » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:12 pm


So the good news: crying and blood has stopped completely, since some time in early January. Not sure if it was just time, or probiotics, or what, but she's better in that department.

However... she is slowly losing weight. Last time she was in the vet, she was about 1020. She's now hanging out at 950, and as low as 930g. I brought her in on Tuesday. Vet felt a lumpy thyroid, drew blood, but blood work shows high-but-normal T4 levels. She's not acting typically hyperthyroid either. Took xrays, too. Nothing abnormal except some extra gas in her digestive tract. I was told to cut out the probiotic I was still giving her.

What gives? We're still looking for a cause for her problems. I seriously expected to have the vet find tumors when she took xrays, but nothing. I'm to bring her in again for more blood work if she hits 900g. Other than this, she's acting normal, seems happy. She gets pestered by Wedgwood, but I've sheen her hassle Wedgie, too, so I don't think it's weight loss due to stress.

I'm really happy she's not in pain any more. So as frustrated I am about the current symptoms, it's not as heart wrenching as the crying nor as flat out alarming as the blood.

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Post   » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:50 pm


No teeth issues? In case you return to the possible hyperthyroidism as a possibility, this post might help:
http://www.guinealynx.info/records/viewtopic.php?t=151

I am sorry to hear she is losing weight.

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Post   » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:33 am


She eats like a pro. I keep checking her teeth, because that seems like such an obvious cause. I plan to watch them a little more closely today when they bicker. I am starting to suspect Boadi's trying to be the aggressor, but not very successful at it. If that's the case, I may have her check more carefully for ovarian cysts.

She's showing none of the symptoms Cannoli did, which were all classic hyperthyroid.

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Post   » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:02 pm


So she's hanging in the 940-960g range. Occasionally Boadicea looks puffed up as in pain, but she pops right out of it if offered food or nose rubs. She doesn't complain when being picked up. Mostly she lounges about and looks fine. Teeth are good, eating looks good. Wedge hasn't been picking on her. Pooing and peeing fine.

Vet was wondering if the metacam we've been giving her for arthritis (in her left leg) could be adversely affecting her. So she's been switched to gabapentin. I start her up on that tomorrow. She's on 0.2ml twice a day (250mg/5ml concentration). I understand it may make her a little loopy for the first day or two? I'll have to keep an eye on her. But I'm hoping, maybe, this will make her feel better.

GrannyJu1
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Post   » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:21 am


Good luck! Please keep us posted.

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Post   » Tue May 30, 2017 7:17 am


Boadicea went through a weekend of sudden dropped weight and not looking well. She was 880g on Sunday morning after weighing in at 930ish on Saturday. This sort of thing has happened before, and I think I've figured it out. No more butternut squash for Boadicea. It seems to happen a few days after she's had a small wedge of it - I usually give them a bit of the end whenever I prepare squash. I figured the high fiber would be good for guinea pigs. But evidently not for her. Have you ever heard such a thing?

She was gassy, had small poos. She was interested in fresh food but barely touched hay or pellets. A day and a half of simethicone and hand feeding and she perked up. She was 910g by last night (I haven't weighed her again today, but she's looking so much better).

Ever heard of high fiber, or squash, causing stomach issues? I'm definitely keeping her away from the squash!

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Post   » Tue May 30, 2017 9:14 am


No, I haven't heard of squash as an issue but every pig is different. I'm glad to hear she's looking better today.

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Post   » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:36 am


Boadicea hit well under 900 for a few days two weeks ago, so we went to the vet. She found a small stone stuck in Boadi's urethra, and quickly removed it. Boadi also had a yeast infection. It was strange - there had been no crying or bloody pee. She hadn't even started to look ill until the trip to the vet. She just kept losing weight, mostly (although she had been getting a bit more screechy and demanding, which I now realize was a sign of the stone).

I brought her back home, loaded with some antibiotic, probiotic and anti fungal wipes and figured everything would get better. Her weight dropped even more (down to 830g) and she looked sick the whole week. I figured it may be due to the antibiotic, but stuck with it for a few days, hand feeding her, hoping in the long run it would make her feel better. But even after taking her off the antibiotic, she didn't perk up, and we were heading into the holiday weekend. I bought her back to see Dr Fisk (Holmes' partner).

I waved another xray, because I really doubted a stone could have grown that big in a week and not be seen on last week's xray. Teeth were fine, everything else looked and felt good. They managed to take a blood draw for an overall panel. (The hurt her leg doing it - I wasn't happy about that - but they got the blood, which amazed me.)

Yesterday she hit 800g in the morning. And I finally got the results back - it showed very high calcium and phosphorus levels. She's got kidney issues. It would explain the long term weightloss as well as this sudden stone development. I have a diagnosis, but what a rotten one. Why are her kidneys failing?? No!

I'm on vacation this week, she came with me. The sea air must be doing her good, because she gained 40g over the course of the day, even with all the traveling. We'll see how she is this morning - I haven't gone down to see her. I was worried about a two hour car ride, but she and Wedg did great and she acted like her normal Boadi self.

Long post - sorry. So - any advice on kidney issues? Push fluids it looks like. She got lots of cucumber during the trip yesterday, and I'm wondering if that helped with her weight.

GrannyJu1
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Post   » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:07 am


My Peek was just diagnosed with kidney disease. All my vet could tell me to do was sub-q fluids. Since he hasn't taken to that, I'm pushing 10 ml of Pedialyte 3 or 4 times a day, more depending on how much he dribbles out.

Good luck with your baby. Please keep us updated.

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Post   » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:16 pm


So I just went through the worst couple of hours that ended with me joyously announcing to the emergency tech on the phone: She peed!

Boadicea started getting fussy about 4pm, and it escalated over the next hour or so. Her weight had been going steadily up all day, but when she hit a high of 843 - nearly 40g over what she's weighed all week, I got nervous. Did she get another stone? Can she pee? By the time I had come to this conclusion, it was 6pm. I sat with her, and kept her in the carry case with a dry towel until 7:30 (after eating a slice or two of cucumber) and nothing. I felt her bladder, and it felt large and hard. Of course all vets are closed. Called Tufts, trying to figure out my options while I'm down on the Cape and Boadi backed up and peed. I've never been so happy to see her drop 10g.

I'll be calling my vet first thing in the morning and seeing if I can get an appointment in the afternoon. I'm coming up from the Cape - it could be a LONG drive home.

This pig may kill me before she goes. Sheesh.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:12 pm


It certainly can be a relief when they pee! Wishing you both the best!

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