Sheep Drench 0.08%

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W3ndy

Post   » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:54 pm


I've been reading your info on Mites and Lice and decided to get the sheep drench. Idk if Tractor Supply sells another dose but they gave me Sheep Drench which is what I asked for. I noticed when I got home your site says 0.8 % and I wanted to know is that a type 0? Because Like I said the one they gave me is 0.08% and I don't want to over dose or actually in this case under dose lol, since I my only little girl piggie is basically a pound and a half.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:56 pm


You mean typo? I think I know what you mean.

No, it's likely a 0.8% solution i.e. 8mg/ml.

A 1% solution is 10mg/ml.

Note, 1 ml = 1 cc

See http://www.guinealynx.info/calculate_dose.html for more info.

W3ndy

Post   » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:31 pm


LOL yes typo, I didn't mean that as a correction it's just they are so close to looking alike I want to be sure. Me and my guinea pigs are not used to each other yet so doing it wrong and starting over would be rough. I'm disabled to boot.

The one they gave me is called Ivermectin Sheep Drench by Durvet 0.08 solution parasiticide and it says it is for 20-100 lb doses. I have an 8 fluid oz bottle.
Can you tell me how I dose my guinea pig with what I have now?

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Post   » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:17 pm


Does it say 0.08 percent solution? Can you link to a picture of the bottle? That would be very diluted.

W3ndy

Post   » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:40 pm


My camera sucks so bad it don't show it but I googled it.

[urlhttp://www.sheepman.com/ecommerce/ecomm_product_details.asp?prodid=2036&source=subcat&catid=30&SubCatID=28][/url][/list]

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Post   » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:12 am


Thanks, I was able to track this down. You are absolutely correct that this is an 0.08% solution (I didn't know this strength was sold):

"Ivermectin Sheep Drench may be used in any standard drenching equipment or in any equipment which provides a consistent dose volume. Ivermectin Sheep Drench is administered orally at a dose of 3.0 mL (2.4 mg ivermectin) per 26 lbs body weight or 200 mcg ivermectin per kilogram of body weight.
Coughing may be observed in some animals during and for several minutes following drenching."

A drench is an oral dose. It can also be given as a "pour-on" (topical dose).

If there is 2.4mg/3ml, this is the same as 0.8mg/ml

A solution of 1% is 10mg/ml
A solution of 0.8% is 8mg/ml

So it does seem it is a solution of 0.08% (took me a while to wrap my brain around this).

See the Durvet pdf:
http://www.durvet.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&task ... d84316fb4a0f

If that doesn't work, try this one and click on the "Detail Sheet" download near the bottom of the page:
http://www.durvet.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_k2%26view%3Ditem%26id%3D121:ivermectin-sheep-drench

Because this is a weaker solution, you need more and it will make your guinea pig wetter applied topically (recommended).

Dosage (topical) 0.5mg/kg -- (topical, see: Topical Dose Advice)

From the page to calculate the dose, it appears a one kilo pig given a topical dosage of 0.5mg/kg of a solution with 0.8 mg/ml would get 0.625cc on the bare spot behind the ears (split it between the two bare spots).
http://www.guinealynx.info/calculate_dose.html#dose

How much does your guinea pig weigh? All guinea pigs in your care must be treated of the worst off one may get mites from a guinea pig that is carrying them but doesn't look so bad.

W3ndy

Post   » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:10 pm


Thank you for all the work you did it wasn't in vain my dad is ill so I couldn't get back till now.

0.671 kg I haven't weighed the rest.

I went to the dose calculation page where you put in the dose weight and all the specs-- it ended up saying 0.12 for a dose.

I have a needless syringe just the one you specify on the site and it starts at 0.1 so how much is that on the syringe?

Should I Just give the 0.1?

I'm going to reread what you wrote again and continue to look at your site as well to see if I get a full understanding.

I'm one of those who even when it is correct stand there nervous for an hour before I give the meds. lol. I had a bad experience with meds once I thought I was dying.

I'm going to weigh her again too and all of them

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Post   » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:35 pm


I get a dose of 0.419 cc when I enter 0.5mg/kg at the top, 0.671 kg of weight, and 0.8mg/ml (the concentration of the suspension). Give it another try and see what you get.

http://www.guinealynx.info/calculate_dose.html#dose

Yes, do read over that page a couple times to understand what a suspension is, what the dosage is, and what a dose is. If you have a friend who has a medical background, perhaps they could check your figures.

The 0.5mg/kg is the dosage when given topically.

W3ndy

Post   » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:02 pm


Hello sorry I've been sick and reading like you said to do.

I went to Tractor Supply 3x until I got it right---1 % Ivermectin injection which I want to do topically.


I have a 4.5 yr old male

I was wondering is he is too old for Ivermectin or Should I give him less or none at all?

I appreciate all the work you did for me--It's comforting having someone around to help answer things because I am very slow about medicating these guys.

I worry too much. Thankfully your forum is here so I can feel safe about dosing.

I did have a Red Cross medication administration license believe it or not LOL. I haven't worked in that field in 3 yrs so I'm rusty.




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bpatters
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Post   » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:42 pm


No, pigs don't get too old for ivermectin. They can be too young, but not too old.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:06 pm


www.guinealynx.info/topical_ivermectin.html I think has directions for you.

Piglets4life

Post   » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:25 pm


To follow up on this link about the 0.08% Durvet ivermectin sheep drench, would a 980gram guinea pig receive a 0.16cc topical dose?

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Post   » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:14 pm


0.5mg/kg
.98kg (round to a kilo)
0.8mg/ml (a 0.08% solution has 0.8mg/ml)
www.guinealynx.info/calculate_dose.html

0.625cc

W3ndy

Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:45 pm


Hello GL Wendy hereNot sure if I am supposed to post here where I posted last.

I need help if at all possible with dosing my 5 yr old male guinea pig with meloxicam he's in in pain. He has been to the vet but I had only $270 and I followed the vets advice and got what was needed minus the pain meds had to get He got SubQ fluids, baytril, doxycycline, critical care the visit was every dime on the care one card.

I have *Metacam 0.5mg/ml, po* it comes with a by the lb syringe it was for my mom's cat who has passed away.

Bobby is 5 yr old boy who weighs--

He won't eat pellets and since he's been sick barely eats eats only what is necessary--soaked green leaf lettuce, cucumber, green, yellow, orange, pepper, hay.. He will not drink and is peeing pink --diarrhea and small cecotropes?

I brought him to the vet he was diagnosed with URI. I didn't have enough to do an xray and get pain meds. $270 I just need to know how much to give I went to the calculator and I keep getting nothing but a zero im doing something wrong

I also have buprinex strength 0.3 mg it was for my rabbit who passed of stones a year ago dose for her weight at 5 lb was 0.10ml PO Q12 hr I wouldn't ask but he is going to die no doubt he needs pain meds. I will be in and out I gotta go to mom's to give my grandmother her meds

Thank you so much have a great night

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:59 pm


You didn't put his weight in, and we'll have to know how much he weighs to calculate the dose. Here's some info on calculating doses. The usual dose of Metacam is .2 mg for every kilogram the pig weighs. Let us know if you can't figure it out.

I wouldn't give the buprinex unless the metacam doesn't take care of the pain. It really zonks pigs out.

He MUST eat, or you'll lose him. Guinea pigs have to have food moving through the gut at all times to dilute the stomach acids they continually secrete, and to keep the contents of the intestines from fermenting and causing bloat. See http://www.guinealynx.info/handfeeding.html. Give him 100+ cc. of Critical Care or pellet slurry for every kilogram he weighs, every day, split into 6-8 doses around the clock. Adjust up or down according to his weight, and down if he's eating some on his own.

You can get some infant electrolyte solution, like Pedialyte, and syringe that to him to get some fluids in him. Most pigs love the stuff, but you can add some to some diluted fruit juice if that helps it go down. The generic is just as good as the brand name.

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Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:21 pm


Ditto bpatters. Do aggressively hand feed! So very important. Weigh at least a couple times a day to make sure he is not losing weight.

You didn't give very complete information. With the limited information you provided, there may be malocclusion (not eating) and also, with the pink urine, there may be stones.

Read over www.guinealynx.info/malocclusion.html and www.guinealynx.info/stones.html

W3ndy

Post   » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:11 pm


Bobby's weight 1263g I think that is 1.263kg? Idk but I know you do :)

Sorry my life went haywire for a while it still is, gram with pneumonia and a car accident that totaled my sons car boy was he mad (not my fault at all though thank God) Many more things landlord...stuff like crazy. Bobby is eating full force again but he strangely enough cut carrots out which were his number one fav snack. He also don't drink much water but he is peeing plenty (I soak his lettuce and veggies) it is colored still but not as bad all the time half the time it is somewhat dark to pale pink. He is in good spirits now he still is under the weather I think this is the beginning of the end he is 5 yrs old.

I just want to get pain meds into him
He is so strong but I know he is in a lot of pain.

W3ndy

Post   » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:57 pm


Ok so I read above but I didn't understand how to do it until I finally caught bobby and weighed him. I brought him to the vet and gave them $250 but it wasn't enough to get the receipt I guess. They were supposed to email it to me i called them and asked again if they could email the receipt and asked if his weight was on there---again NO EMAIL well enough his weight could've changed by now so I tried to catch him that night to post it. I continued to try to catch him but didn't want to make him more painful and stressed sounds crazy but at the time he was so sick and i didn't even know if I should medicate if he had a stone? My thoughts were was I going to cause it to be worse---Im not a doctor and never owned a piggie. I had and still have a massive amount of personal issues going on. Landlord wants to get rid of my piggies on top of all of this and my mini washer, grammy has no voicebox due to cancer and has pneumonia and they took away her pain meds after giving her narcan instead of treating her for pneumoia and put her 90lb butt in a straight jacket she wasnt combative she just wasnt able to talk. I got in a car accident with my sons car as well all in that same week with bobby being sick and 3 other piggies... I finally got his weight so I will assume he gets a dose of .2 mg. however the meloxicam has a syringe for pounds so idk I want scream he needs meds he is in pain not his fault. I am sorry I could'nt get back to you it is just i am disabled and having a hard time with juggling this stuff. this is why I cannot work I can't manage a lot of stuff at once.

Thank you for all the info on your site it is so packed full of great stuff we are all very fortunate to have you I mean that God bless you all.

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