Del Boy's Med Thread - Heart
Talishan
New foster. No formal diagnosis but all classic signs of being a heart pig:
1) pancaky
2) blue ear margins
3) panting even at rest
4) arrhythmia
We have a vet appt to try and get formal diagnosis but we have a heat wave here and he's breathing is quite laboured.
What's the risk of giving vetmedin to a pig who doesn't have heart issues?
New foster. No formal diagnosis but all classic signs of being a heart pig:
1) pancaky
2) blue ear margins
3) panting even at rest
4) arrhythmia
We have a vet appt to try and get formal diagnosis but we have a heat wave here and he's breathing is quite laboured.
What's the risk of giving vetmedin to a pig who doesn't have heart issues?
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- You can quote me
How old is he (best guess)?
If it was benazepril, the risk is minimal. With pimobendan, my honest answer is that I just don't know.
With four solid signs like that, and in the middle of a heat wave, my inclination would be to try 1/4, 1/3 or 1/2 the standard dosing and monitor his response.
Do you have any Lasix or benazepril, or is Vetmedin all you have to hand?
If it was benazepril, the risk is minimal. With pimobendan, my honest answer is that I just don't know.
With four solid signs like that, and in the middle of a heat wave, my inclination would be to try 1/4, 1/3 or 1/2 the standard dosing and monitor his response.
Do you have any Lasix or benazepril, or is Vetmedin all you have to hand?
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- You can quote me
At 18 months it'd be congenital most likely imo. Do you know anything about his background at all?
When is the vet appointment?
My gut hunch is to risk a small amount. Fwiw.
EDIT: yes, Lasix first. *Small* amount, again, a portion of normal dosing, but Lasix has a range of dosing. I just don't want to dehydrate him and throw off his electrolyte balance with an arrhythmia already present.
Is he drinking well/at all?
EDIT 2: can you hear fluid in the lungs/chest cavity?
When is the vet appointment?
My gut hunch is to risk a small amount. Fwiw.
EDIT: yes, Lasix first. *Small* amount, again, a portion of normal dosing, but Lasix has a range of dosing. I just don't want to dehydrate him and throw off his electrolyte balance with an arrhythmia already present.
Is he drinking well/at all?
EDIT 2: can you hear fluid in the lungs/chest cavity?
Ha, was just about to say he doesn't drink but am just watching him at the water bottle.
Agree it's going to be congenital. Don't know anything about his background. He local RSPCA foster.
Can't hear any fluid and vet appointment not until the week-end (we have a v limited pool of vets able to diagnose with any accuracy)
Agree it's going to be congenital. Don't know anything about his background. He local RSPCA foster.
Can't hear any fluid and vet appointment not until the week-end (we have a v limited pool of vets able to diagnose with any accuracy)
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- You can quote me
My gut is to try a very small dose of Lasix and a very small amount of pimobendan. I certainly will not be offended if you decide to do either or neither. I wish I could give you solider advice.
Also move him to the coolest part of the house (I figure you've already done this).
Please keep me posted. I wish I could be more useful.
Also move him to the coolest part of the house (I figure you've already done this).
Please keep me posted. I wish I could be more useful.
Thank you both.
Tal - going to try and speak with vet today and give him a v small dose tonight when I'm home to monitor.
Lynx - the temp has been up to 30c here (unusual for
Us). Not overly humid but no air.
The house however is comparatively cool - around. 22/23c
Temps have dropped over night and are due to stay down today. He continues to pant and lay out.
Will let you know how we get on.
Tal - going to try and speak with vet today and give him a v small dose tonight when I'm home to monitor.
Lynx - the temp has been up to 30c here (unusual for
Us). Not overly humid but no air.
The house however is comparatively cool - around. 22/23c
Temps have dropped over night and are due to stay down today. He continues to pant and lay out.
Will let you know how we get on.