Zyrtec's skin problem

bpatters
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Post   » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:34 am


Without reading back, have you tried an antifungal shampoo, such as Nizoral?

annelie

Post   » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:25 am


I have tried nizoral and it did nothing except make him very dry.

A general update:
The opthalmologist immediately identified that he has problem with tear production in his left eye, so he is on artificial tear treatment for a month and then followup.

I started to notice a pattern in his skin condition that may or may not be causative. He seems to react to perfumes or room scents/heavily scented candles. I removed all scents from the apartment and I see an improvement after a week. It is very cold and dry here now and getting the humidity up is close to impossible so this has not been the cause for improvement.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:25 am


Have you tried a warm, wet compress on the eye? Gentle massage? Sometimes a blocked tear duct can be opened. The artificial tear treatment should definitely help protect the eye for the time being.

annelie

Post   » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:24 am


Yeah we tried that and one of the first vets suspected something like that as well. But the ophthalmologist is really good so I hope that we can solve this finally

annelie

Post   » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:36 pm


The eye is back to normal! :D the drops are not even required anymore. We still have a checkup in february and I will ask about seeing a dermatologist for his skin.

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Post   » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:09 pm


That is good news! Thanks for the update.

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Post   » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:16 pm


With my skinny pigs I found the more stuff you put on them, the more it will itch. I had one boy who anything I put on him only made things worse except for coconut oil. Anything else made him go beat red and the condition got worse and wouldn't go away. Just coconut oil sparingly has always worked the best for my skinny pigs.

My one skinny pig had a chronic eye issue and turned out to be entropion (eye lashes curled inwards). He had surgery to correct it. He still has a watery eye at times (tear duct issues) and it takes daily maintenance of cleaning with a warm cotton pad and applying eye lubricant to keep him happy but a huge difference was made after his surgery.

annelie

Post   » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:49 am


Thank you so much for your tips Skinnypigs1. I started out with only coconut oil for everything from cleaning to moisturising and it never really changed anything :( That was the only reason why I started "experimenting". I now stopped all kinds of moisturising as he is getting irritated from everything touching his skin.

I have some good news. We have visited the ophthalmologist twice now and Zyrtec is to get Hyabak artificial tears 2x a day indefinitely. This vet also suggested I give Benadryl some drops now and then to rinse out dirt or hay (I don't know what this little bastard is doing but he gets pieces of hay in his eye constantly). There has been zero eye problems since I started giving Zyrtec Hyabak.

As for the skin: He is still cycling, and 2 weeks ago it was rather bad (no breaking of skin though). My new (and now permanent vet for skin issues) sent sample from nose fur and skin to external lab for testing. There was no sign of fungus/bugs and we are going today for a visit to evaluate the skin for a steroid treatment regime. She suspects that he has a mite allergy. I will let you guys know how it goes!

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:37 am


Thanks for the update! I sure hope his issues can be controlled/cured!

annelie

Post   » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:54 pm


The vet wanted to start with stronghold for both of them just to rule out any resistant mites. If no effect he will get antihistamins and I was recommended to get a spray for removal of allergens (Animedica Flee) that is safe for animals. IF antihistamins doesn't work then we will consider steroids. They are now both in a close to "bare" towel cage for allergy investigation purposes :)

annelie

Post   » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:18 pm


He got better after the stronghold treatment so we are holding off with the antihistamins for now.

On a side note, due to severe allergies (my own allergies this time) I have been forced to switch my hay to oxbow orchard grass and I feel that it is very dusty and the boys require eye cleaning at least twice a week. I got a 4kg bag. Could this be a batch thing, or is it usually extremely dusty?

bpatters
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Post   » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:27 pm


You're buying it from a pet store? That's the driest, dustiest hay you can possibly get. See if you can find a local supplier or a place to order it online.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:15 pm


By the way, some people will soak they hay in water, shake it off, put it on a plate, and give it to their guinea pigs. It generally is not left out too long because wet hay can get moldy but I'm sure an hour would be okay. This would take care of the dust for you.

p.s. sometimes dust is actually due to tiny bugs eating the hay (it gets broken up).

annelie

Post   » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:20 am


@Lynx Great advice! I will try to give them that, at least as a treat :) I have more coming in today so hoping it will be bit better.

@bpatters I am getting it from amazon as it is unavailable here in Poland.

Zyrtec was less itchy after stronghold but it didn't disappear fully so he is now on antihistamins. It helps him a lot, but yesterday he started getting a patch of scratched off fur. He does that sometimes and it grows back quickly without any special actions. I guess we will visit vet again soon

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Post   » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:59 am


Some severe cases of mites can take multiple treatments of a product like Stronghold (selamectin). So I would do another course of it. Antihistamins alone will not cure him. If you can get ivermectin, you can use that once a week for several weeks too.

www.guinealynx.info/topical_ivermectin.html

annelie

Post   » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:19 am


Yes I am leaning more towards that direction too. Ivermectin doesn't seem to help him much, but selamectin did. Weirdly enough he got much better after dose 1, but not second dose. He got second dose selamectin 10 days after the first and less than a week after that he was worse again, it just doesn't add up. Only thing I can think of is that the dose was too small. I got ca 60ul and, although I am unsure of the concentration, it adds up to the recommended treatment for a 700g pig using 120mg/cc.

I do have ivermectin spot treatment at home from UK that I could try to do more frequent treatments in case it wasn't a resistance problem, but rather a length of treatment period problem.

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Post   » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:43 am


Don't rule out a concurrent fungal infection. He might have that too.
www.guinealynx.info/fungus.html

annelie

Post   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:32 pm


We tested him fairly recent for fungal infection (external lab with typing) and they couldn't find anything on skin scrapings or hair. Currently he is being shampooed with Hexoderm (when he needs a bath which is rarely). bald spot is not improving so I will start up anti parasitic treatment again and then ofc to make sure treat for fungal infection as well.

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Post   » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:09 pm


I hope you are able to clear it up! Sometimes skin issues resolve and one doesn't really know which treatment was most effective.

annelie

Post   » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:22 pm


Thank you! Im hoping the same. He has received 2 doses of ivermectin and is getting some atarax until he shows less signs of itchy skin. He is much much happier these days and is running around and popcorning. Hopefully few more treatments will clear him up

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