Bumblefoot

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wenton5

Post   » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:48 pm


Not sure if I'm posting in the proper category. Any up to date new info on bumblefoot and any pictures on wrapping procedures?
Thanks soo much
Lara and Romeo Berthiaume

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:37 pm


All I have is what is in the guide. You can do a search if you'd like to see if there are any other ideas out there. Perhaps someone else will have some suggestions.
www.guinealynx.info/pododermatitis.html
www.guinealynx.info/bandaging.html

Do you have a topic this relates to?

wenton5

Post   » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:22 pm


Thanks soo much Lynx, I have looked at the links, was hoping to find detailed pics on bandaging of the feet. My almost 7 year old boar with a long history of health issues has some sores on his feet. Bedding etc. has already been addressed as well as ab suggestions and what to use topically. He has always had digestive issues so poopy feet is ongoing, our husbandry is very thorough. We will see Curt Nakamura our long term exotics vet specialist, but was just looking for additional information. His heart is fine.
Thanks soo much
Lara and Romeo Berthiaume

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:54 am


Interestingly, I recently had someone send me a link to a long video they made concerning wrapping feet. I would suggest pre-cutting what you need. I would reread what I have on the bandaging page for materials first. Someone either posted here or wrote me (don't recall) about serious problems as a result of wrapping their guinea pig's foot. It seems to have become necrotic from having been put on too tightly.

Pay close attention to the bandaging page and wrapping entirely, having a dry foot, protecting open sores with a Telfa (non-stick) pad, using gauze and not applying Vetwrap directly to the foot. The foot should be entirely enclosed. The small collar at the ankle made from non-stretchy tape is only to prevent the wrapping from coming off the foot and also should not be too tight.

Here is the link to the video. This is not how I did it. I encouraged this person to start a topic here to discuss this but he/she did not register. Their guinea pig was super cooperative! I will also include my email response. I am not endorsing this technique nor the use of hypochlorous acid. But the video may help you figure out how to put things on (I kind of just got everything together, worked quickly, and followed my own directions).

Hi,

You have a very adorable, cute, and cooperative guinea pig!

If you would like to share this video, I encourage you to sign up on the forums and post in the medical forums, describing anything else you do. A closeup of the foot, showing the pododtermatitis (bumblefoot) before the treatment would be helpful.

Since it is a long video, pictures of the cut pieces so they are ready to go sooner, along with a list of the products you selected would be helpful. It appears you are using Vetericyn Plus Wound & Skin Care.

The active ingredient in this product is a chlorine biproduct, called hypochlorous acid:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid

More about it's use here:
Hypochlorous Acid as a Potential Wound Care Agent
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1853323/

Thanks for writing! You can sign up for the forums here:
www.guinealynx.info/forums

Lynx

wenton5

Post   » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:11 pm


Thank you soooo much Lynx! Romeo is almost 7 and totally blind, so I really want to have all my info ready before I put him through the task of wrapping. I really appreciate your help!😍
Lara and Romeo Berthiaume

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GrannyJu1
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Post   » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:33 am


Just remember - don't wrap too tightly.

wenton5

Post   » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:46 am


Thank you GrannyJu1💖

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:37 pm


Here's what we did for Pepper - not sure if it will be of any use.


"She's on bactrim & they're keeping her on it since there is a bit of improvement. We know from past experience that she looses weight on baytril & she's already a bit low in weight. She started with iodine solution soaks & for the last 2-3 weeks they've given us something else for soaks. I can't remember the name, but it's used for cancer (??). They mix it up in solution once a week.

We've tried bandages with neosporin & at first (once we figured out how to do it) she kept them on for a day. But she gradually got better at getting them off, so she'd only have them on for a couple of hours."

We kept up the soaking & bactrim & got her fleece bedding over an absorbent layer & layers of towels for softness. The vet also mentioned possible vitamin c deficiency. It took several months, but the feet finally healed."

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:46 pm


I corresponded with a guinea pig owner from Turkey. I believe she wanted to share her experiences.
2018 May-We realized that our guinea pig has swollen foot.

In that week we took him to a vet.They believed that there is something pierced through in his foot. They had little cut without anesthesia. Obviously there was nothing in it. Then they gave him antibiotic injections.(5 dose of Baytril that didn't help)

We took him to same place again and this time they said he need another antibiotic.(orally)(Agumentin)(I went there with the papers which I printed from internet about bumble foot and saying that we are sure what he has. He was laughing at me by denying it.

(That time i started to messaging your website. Thanks to your advice we learned that antibiotic which they gave him was very dangerous.(Which contains Amoxicillin) After first 2 dose he had very serious diarrhea. He was very sick. With your advice we stopped it immediately and we gave him GRASS HAY.

After couple of days he was better and his diet was ok. Because of these we were afraid of to take him another vet. After some time his foot got worse. We took him to another vet and another and even the university hospital. Nothing changed.We tried Epsom salts and all other internet advise.We were without hope. Finally one friend recommended a vet that has experience with this kind of animal.

So 2 weeks ago we took him to new vet. She instantly understood his problem and added that this was the worst case that she has ever seen. But she was so positive and dedicated.

First she gave anesthesia. Opened a cut and cleaned all the bad stuff from his foot. It bled some time and after that it was ok.

She gave him oral medicine;
  • Antibiotic 0,3mlx2times per day BACTRIM)12hr (we used one week)
  • Vitamin 0,3mlx2times per day VITA GLUCAN PLUS (first week 2 times second week 1 time after it depends on you) Just for supplement [this is basically vitamin C]
  • Antienflamatuar 0,2mlx2 METACAM (first week 2 times second week 1 time per day)
Skin Cream;
Sterile Pomad; 2times per day CILOXAN [active ingredient, ciprofloxacin]

Bedding
We prepare very soft bedding for him. Some spongy material and we put disposable underpad on it and we are changing it every day.

Bandage;
We clean his with foot Cyristalin before the sterile pomad. After that we close his foot with bandage.
http://www.nhp.com.tr/en/hayvan_sagligi.php

NOW he recovered perfectly.

We are very thankful to our vet.

MANY THANK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:08 pm


We also used silvion spray on Pepper's feet. And of course gave her a rinse soak after the iodine solution soak.

In reference to the question on your other thread, we can't remember how we dealt with the scabs.

wenton5

Post   » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:47 pm


This is sooo great, thank you so very much everyone, appreciate it a lot. Is the spray over the counter or do we get it from the vet? I've been doing ionized salt water over the poo when the boo boo looks icky, and then calendula cream, until our vet gets back

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:50 pm


The pet owner from Turkey had just written me yesterday. I do think her guinea pig may have had an injury and severe infection of the foot. After it was properly treated, it healed. I don't think all pododermatitis has the same causes or prognoses.

wenton5

Post   » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:15 am


Agreed Lynx, still great, thanks soo much.

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:29 am


The Silvion spray was from the vet. I just went digging and found an exam report from near the end of Pepper's treatment. We were also using Silvaklenz spray & meloxicam along with the bactrim. At that point we were soaking her feet in a Tricide solution they mixed up for us.I also see mention of neo (sporin?) - in conjunction with bandaging which we couldn't get to work?

They had a picture of her feet when we first brought her in, after they'd cleaned the scabs off & before they'd cleaned out the infected areas. It was awful. I wonder how we could have missed that, but I think the scabs on her black feet disguised the problem.

The prognosis was "guarded", as it is with bad bumblefoot. When we took her in towards the end of treatment when she was healed, they took her in back for something & I heard a cheer go up among the staff!

Pepper enjoyed her foot soaks. I don't know if it was the attention or what.

wenton5

Post   » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:06 pm


Thank you soo much Bookfan, very helpful. Is it under control now? 💖

Bookfan
For the Love of Pigs

Post   » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:46 pm


We got it completely healed and were vigilant about checking it. She died last spring (PTS) at the age of 8. She had an inoperable tumor in her neck that finally obstructed her esophagus.

wenton5

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