- Cavies 'n Cobwebs
Without all the facts, it's hard to know if the baytril was at fault or not. I'm sorry you lost them. I think it's important to learn all you can so you can recognize a good vet when you find one.
- Cavies 'n Cobwebs
Pig 1 - biggest nightmare and biggest disappointment in UK vet care! (Large practice, reputedly 'best in town' - yeah, right).
Scooter was originally taken to the vet with bloat/gas. I didn't know as much then as I do now so had no simethicone or anything to catch it in time (or internet access either for that matter!). The first vet I saw was more interested in discussing the previous client with her students that were there at the time. She said this will 'flush it out' and gave Scooter an injection (not sure what it was - didn't get any answer at the time). The gp had diarrhea so altered food accordingly and the bloat went.
A few days later, back for a check up and also to see about Scooter's poorer appetite, saw a different vet who decided an injection of Baytril should clear up any lingering problem - how she came to this diagnosis I've no idea - and also decided to trim Scooter's teeth as she said it may contribute to the appetite problem. Instant diarrhea and very weak pig who could not feed herself now as her incisors were trimmed.
Feeling way out my depth now but I knew enough to hand feed her mushed pellet mix and veggies and little bits of hay. A few days later, back for another check up, Scooter seemed to be picking up, poops better and a little stronger. A third vet who is looking through a large medical book says ' I'm not really that familiar with guinea pigs, but the Baytril seemed to do the trick last time, we'll give it one more shot'.
More diarrhea, can't get it cleared up so went back to vet. Saw vet no.2 again who gave another shot of Baytril. Scooter went downhill fast. Couldn't clear the diarrhea and this time Scooter gave up. Refused to eat and became like a rag.
Last appointment for a check up was to put her to sleep as she had become paralysed in her back end. Guess what - a fourth vet who I guess had never euthanaised an animal before and seemed more traumatised by it than I was. Perhaps the Baytril didn't kill Scooter as much as misdiagnosis but I think the dose must have had something to do with it - sorry no figures. And also 4 different vets in 5 visits in 10 days saw no continuity in her treatment (in my opinion).
Miss P had suspected cystitis (squeaking while peeing etc). Saw vet (sorry, same practice) who decided Baytril was best course of action. After telling her the nightmare with Scooter and suggesting that as Miss P was a full sister, the Baytril may not agree with her, I got told not to be silly and that Baytril was the only one safe for gps anyway so didn't really have a choice. One injection later, got home, one very unhappy pig, diarrhea and loss of appetite.
Did what I had done with Scooter re handfeeding and a few days later, back for a check up. Surprise surprise, different vet - same Baytril jab. Really bad diarrhea, nursed Miss P for a few days and was looking into getting a new vet. Poor Miss P died overnight.
It was definitely Baytril they were given as I had a fear of it when I had Dusty and she was diagnosed with a URI and they said Baytril and I said NO! But my new vet gave it in oral form as a week's course and a little syringe and there was no problem at all.
So, new vet, new pigs, lots more information!
But it certainly seems like they screwed up badly. It must have been a terribly sad time for you.
- Cavies 'n Cobwebs
To correct earlier, the reason for the vet visit with Scooter was lack of appetite and bloat.
1st vet trip (26th) gave 'flushing out' jab and vitamin jab.
2nd trip (30th) was not Baytril but steroid jab to stimulate appetite.
3rd & 4th trip (31st & 3rd) were definitely Baytril jabs. (4th trip was vet who had the book open while I was there).
5th trip (5th) was final jab in stomach - euthanised.
The practice did have 2 piggy vets but one went to live in Norway and the other was often rushed into surgery as she was an expert in emergency cases so even if my appointment was with her, and she was called in to surgery, I got 'whoever'. By the time Miss P died this vet had already left on maternity leave.
It may have been a sensitivity to it in my pigs but I've always felt it was just too heavy a dose. Nobody ever asked about or weighed the pigs, if that should make a difference.
If I knew then what I know now these pigs would have lived more than 2 years. Hindsight is such a wonderful thing!!
It was fun reading my old posts here. My dog is nicely cleared up and staying that way with bottled water and C/D food, and yes Salana that may have been what I was taking. It was a wonder drug at the time!
After reading many of the links I came up with in my search I am uncertain if I have straight baytril or if the Silver Sulfadiazine has been added to to it, but it makes ense that it would have been for the ear infection Rupert had. Which healed quickly and without head tilt thanks goodness.