I do notice mine pee a less sludgy pee. I feel it helps their health. And Nina has slowly dropped a little weight though Kitten seems to be as plump as ever.
- Little Jo Wheek
From what I´ve read and researched, APD pellets aren´t that great. I got some to try with my pigs, but they smelled so bad I couldn´t do it. That and reading the label, of course. I even got the sample directly from the distributor, so they were fresh. I´ve seen lots of pellets, but these were almost too close to many "bargain brands" that have nothing but garbage in them. I´ll stick with Oxbow´s Cavy Cuisine, thank you. I wish someone sold it here (still working on the new feed store, which is immaculate with quality customer service), but at least they do deliver to my door!
- Little Jo Wheek
Consistently mediocre, sure.
I have used Oxbow at least two-three years and have seen no indication of the problems she described. Just a bunch of Oxbow bashing. They can´t compete, for sure.
My house guest pigs came with APD Timmy Pellets and I noticed they smell sickly sweet. Now I look at the ingredients on the label I can see why. Molasses and beet pulp!
I have three boars living together. Two are 2 months old and the other is just over a year. Currently I´m giving them alfalfa everyday except once a week when I give them Timothy. I have no idea whether this is a good mix so thought I´d better ask.
Sunny, I think I´d take them out and give them a bit extra alfalfa. And not put it in all the time.
All the pellets are alfalfa anyway. When they´re all over a year, perhaps switch to a timothy based pellet.
I wonder if I could just feed mine grass hay pellets? I feed them to a few of my horses. All they are are pellets of grass hay, nothing else added. I doubt my pigs are getting much vit c from the pellets I buy, anyway, and so I supplement. And with the amount of greens and veggies and occasional fruits, and free choice hay, do they really need a special pellet formulated for guinea pigs?
Not that I recommend doing it, but I feed my pigs horse pellets. The only pig pellets I can get here is Hagen and Hartz in 2lbs bags. Neither are good choices. Ordering Oxbow or something similar is not realistic, since I´d pay something like 150$ for a 50lbs bags, after exchange rate, customs, taxes and shipping. I just can´t spend that kind of money.
So my only solution was to find good quality alfalfa pellets for horses. I called around, looked at ingredient lists, talked to my vet and decided on one kind that´s readily avalable and is very good quality. Maybe not Oxbow quality, but a whole lot better than Hagen and Hartz. I called the company to make extra sure they were not adding stuff that didn´t show on their ingredient list (preservatives, antibiotics, etc).
My pigs have been on it for over two years, now. Of course, I´d much prefer to be feeding them high quality guinea pig pellets, but in my situation, it´s just not something that´s possible. Besides, guinea pigs and horses are so much alike in so many aspects. And good alfalfa pellets are good alfalfa pellets. Obviously, my pellets don´t have added vitamin C, but I feed greens in good amounts every day and all my pigs are (furiously knock on wood!!) all healthy.
Like I said, I´m not recommending this, but it has worked very well for me as a last resort. Now, if the US stop screwing us over and our dollar regains value, I´ll be the first in line to order Oxbow. I´d love to put my hands on the grass pellets you are talking about.
PS- A few days ago, I was reading Teresa´s adoptables page and under one of the pictures, it said that pig had been rescued from a horrible situation where he was fed horse feed. Yikes! Reason #46 why Teresa would never adopt to me.
I guess it´s prevention. Don´t know if it will work or not. As for losing weight when switching from alfalfa pellets to timothy pellets, dream on. I have three fat pigs to prove it doesn´t make much difference.
I do think the vegetables count and count big toward good nutrition. If I were you, I´d also try to pick nice fresh grass every day. In the end, they will eat fewer pellets and be healthier.
I´m sure you will work something out that is suitable for you. None of us know for sure the best diet -- we guess and try to provide it.
I tried that with my three girls. Chippy is sludgy so really shouldn´t have any alfalfa, so I would put it down whil Chippy had some lap time. Of course, the other two ate about two bites, then were off doing who-knows-what and I had a pile of alfalfa to clean up. Try it, though. It might work for you.