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Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:35 pm

I have about a half and half off of Petfinder. It has it's share of good and bad. I agree, it's to bad they hooked up with Petco...and you're corect..too many kids!!

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Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:41 pm

OK...they come to a rescue and then tell you they want to breed? That's a good one. You were very nice in your letter. What they needed was the "Dear Dumb Ass"Letter.

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Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:18 pm

I've gotten a couple that wanted to breed. I sent letters very much like yours, with links. One was a young girl, and she replied that she would, indeed, rethink breeding.

Yesterday I got two requests from teachers for classroom pets. One wants to breed. I'm in the middle of responding to those ones.


Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:56 pm

Dang. I keep forgetting that I have to write a "Dear Dumbass" letter for classroom pets. That is a hard one. Teachers pride themselves on being intellectually superior (whether or not they are) and they really bridle at the insinuation that a guinea pig would not thrive in THEIR classroom. So you have a walk a fine line there.

Of all the people I've ever turned away from adoptions, teachers have been the most irate and are very often rude, no matter how politely I couch my reply.

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Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:15 pm

I've used this to send to teachers before.


Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:32 pm

This is all very helpful to me as I have had a highschool teacher contact me about having pigs in her room. The temperature questions are good and of course where they'll be on weekends. I am wondering if I should foster to her first. That might be an option. I plan to check out the school as well. I am a teacher and have brought the odd animal in to visit. I do think it's good for children to see that many pigs are unwanted. I'll forward her some of the questions her. Glad I popped in!


Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:45 pm

Lisam, we do send that. But I haven't had success with it dissuading anyone. And what's worse, some people seem to latch on to this:

Where will the classroom pet be obtained? The pet should be adopted or rescued, not purchased from a pet store or breeder.

to signify that they are actually doing a good deed, and how dare I question that?

I will come up with an improved approach. I fear that article may make teachers think that it is "theoretically possible" to provide a good environment for a guinea pig in the classroom. I don't want to see that practice legitimized any further, because I believe that inherently it is unhealthy for an animal to live in a classroom.

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Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:46 pm

I don't think I've heard of any guinea pigs in my son's school. I know they had a few hamsters and I didn't feel that was the right place for those either. I also remember a few teachers having fish tanks but they were taken to their homes during summer break.

I'm hoping that maybe having live animals in the classroom idea is starting to die down. I would like the kids to know that you can adopt from a rescue rather than a pet store, but I'm not sure living in a school is the best place for the piggies. I would be worried leaving them overnight let alone leaving them there all weekend.

My son had some friends over this weekend and one of the boys asked my son why we only had boy guinea pigs in our house. He wanted to know if I didn't like baby pigs and my son gave him the whole "breeding is bad" speech. I was so proud.

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Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:37 pm

Teachers pride themselves on being intellectually superior (whether or not they are)

Oh, haven't heard that one yet.

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Post   » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:46 pm

I will come up with an improved approach.

Hey Chary, when you come up with it, will you share it with me? Will you write out a document? It would be nice to post it here somewhere.

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Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:31 am

Right now teacher's who email have a classroom guinea pig that just died... so it didn't last since September. I guess in September I have even more classroom pet emails to look forward to?

The main emails right now I seem to be getting are, "I want babies!" No clue why, but I've been getting a lot of those inquiries.


Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:04 pm

I got my petfinder website. Now I just got to set it all up.


Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:27 pm

Holly, I had a feeling someone would be irked by that.

Teachers are there to nurture and educate-- and to tell them that an animal might suffer in their classroom is an injury to that image. By far the angriest replies I have received are from teachers who take my speech on "why guinea pigs don't belong in the classroom" to mean that they are personally irresponsible people.

Let's not impute any teacher-hating into this. We all know that guinea pigs suffer in classrooms and that teachers need to recognize this but they are so difficult to deal with that I stopped explaining it.

I think what has to be done is to explain it so that the teacher sees it as a credit to themselves if they abstain from bringing a guinea pig into the classroom. Appeal to their humanitarian side rather than seem like we are instructing them. I'll get on it when I have time.


Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:43 pm

I am a teacher and I am not ofended by anything said. I helped a teacher find some pigs once as they were going to be her pets and she was going to take them into the classroom once in a while to discuss the overpopulation problem. I actually took some in yesterday as their adopters were picking them up.

I recently had a request from Biology teachers wanting to house pigs in an aquarium. I have yet to reply. Many of my colleagues do think they know everything, and I wouldn't trust any at my school with any of my pigs! They just don't get it! I agree that appealing to the humanitarian side is the way to go. I'll try that when I reject the Biology teacher.

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Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:02 pm

I think a teacher who occasionally shares her own pets is the best way to incorporate guinea pigs into the classroom. They're more likely to get good care and medical help when needed.

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Post   » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:52 pm

My son had 2 pairs of pigs in his 3rd grade class. Of course, because the kids liked the pigs in the class, some of the parent bought them their own. Spring and Fall came to me in the middle of the school year because the mom was tired of taking care of them. I then got Marshmallow and Ginger (one pair of class pigs) at the end of the school year. I really wonder what happened to the other pair. They were awesome pigs.
While I completely loved the teacher, I learned bad habits from her regarding caring for the pigs (ie. no hay). Thank God I researched the internet and found GL.

That's my long story, but I do agree to not have classroom pets.

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Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:11 am

There was one teacher that just kept emailing me. She swore if I talked to her on the phone we'd adopt to her. She even offered that I could call her at school at any time. The class guinea pig had just died and I guess she thought sad sounding students would help or something?

I was seriously considering taking her up on that and explaining why it was a bad idea. But thought better of it.


Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:17 am

It is really tough with this teacher too. She is quite nice. However, when I screen an adopter I either have absolutely great ones like Pinta or Chocolate's Mom from here or I look for those who have done research and are willing to listen and learn. I always send the cavycages link and this one and quote the sites to back up anything I say. I explain that people here have kept guinea pigs for over 20 years and are true experts. If they are not willing to listen and ask the right questions, then I won't let them have our pigs. The kids love it when I bring in the animals, but I don't do it often. When I brought my Mini-Rex rabbit in I gave him free run of the class so they couldn't bug him. It worked out well.


Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:33 am

oops wrong thread

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Post   » Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:00 pm

I know that a good many rescues here use petfinder. Can someone please tell me how to do the Happy Tails listings

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