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JudiL-MetroGPRescue
Poop Obsessed

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:37 am


I am sick and tired of the Carefresh being so dusty. We get
in-store use
from a distributor. Its cheap, but my pig area is so dusty. I am tempted to switch to fleece, but I have foster cages and isn't it just too much work if you have like 7 cages?

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:06 am


Judi, I have five cages and they are all on fleece. My larger herd does have a kitchen area with disposable bedding, and two of my other cages have pans under their hayracks just to help keep the cages cleaner a bit longer. It is a little bit of work, but I would never go back to traditional bedding.

Are your seven cages really large cages?

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rshevin

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:10 am


How much "work" the fleece is really is a matter of perception. Now granted I only have one average size cage but to me scooping out 2 trash cans full of shavings was more work than washing and folding fleece. Oddly it takes more time and effort to wash and fold fleece but I perceive it as being easier. You could try even 1 cage and see how you like it. It's a pretty small financial investment, especially if you already have a bunch of rag towels.

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-Matthew-

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:34 am


My fleece cage cleaning routine is once a week and it takes about 4 hours. Most of that time is washing/drying time though.

During that wait time I usually do my house cleaning while I'm up and about and in the cleaning mood.

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Feylin

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:52 am


Something I learned from Weaver is to put layers of fleece down over the main fleece. I have a 2x6 right now and I have 3 sets of main fleece. Each set is 2 pieces that could cover a 2x4 so they overlap in the middle.

Then, I have rectangles of fleece that are 2x5 or 2x2 or 2x3 (I wasn't being very precise when I cut 'em) I put the big one down in the middle and the little ones down on the ends so they overlap. Every day, I come by and roll up the extra fleece, shake out the poops, and put them back if they're not too dirty. If they are dirty, then I replace them.

I have burrowers so I have bricks around the cage and lots of Weaver sacks. It's pretty much stopped them.

The other thing that REALLY extends the life of the fleece and towels, though, is cage pads. I put those down over the fleece layers wherever pigs sleep and on the ramps. I bought one from Weaver but I could see that I needed so many I'd go broke! So I sewed a bunch of cheap versions and swap those out daily. They absorb most of the pee. Really useful! I love the skinny ones I just made for the ramps too. They stay put and have good footing and my gross boys can pee and sleep and poop on them all they want.

I dont' really have a good picture of the cage fleeces, but here's the best I have at the moment. The red fleece is the main fleece and I put down a layer of road fleece. The blue fish is the cage pad. We are super coordinated!

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:59 am


Judi, you are right in thinking it is a lot of work, especially if you are lucky enough now to just be able to carry your pans outside and dump them into a compost pile. Honestly, I do MUCH prefer the fleece over the bedding. To me the cages look a lot cleaner, and with the pigs being in my bedrroom I don't like the smell or the dust of traditional bedding.

I vacuum all my cages once a day and change out their beds every day. If you just use igloos, that right there will save you a lot of laundry. Each of my cages is rotated cleaning days where I totally change out everything so the laundry and the work involved does not seem so overwhelming. It is a WHOLE lot of laundry if you have to do them all in one day (my cages are seven loads if I do them all at one time).

You just have to find a routine and stick to it. If you slack off and think I will do that part tomorrow it seems like the whole system gets out of whack.

The hardest part for me about using fleece is not buying MY own pigs new fleece everytime I go to the store. I keep thinking about all of the money I save not buying bedding and try to rationalize how much fleece I can buy with that money :P

JensCritterDen
Guinea Pig Market

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:01 am


I do the same thing with several layers. I also recently redid all of my cages (5) and put a kitchen area in each one. I used the bottoms of the small petstore cages. I line those with towels, fleece, and dollar store rugs. That's where most of them do their business, so I just swap those out daily and sweep up the poop in the rest of the cage.

The pad under the bed's is a great idea, i'm going to do that today!

By the way, love the hut, hehe;)

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Feylin

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:05 am


You could not possibly love that hut as much as they do, Momof. ;)

Also? You really don't want to be loving it right now because they were arguing over who's hut it really was and it's now covered in boar stank.

JensCritterDen
Guinea Pig Market

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:29 am


Here are a few pics of the new cages, they rock!

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Our helper got way tired out!
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All 4 cages are 5x3's, the two cages on the left each have 3 boars and the two cages on the right each have 2 boars. After some qt's are over the two on the right will each house 4 boars.

Erin8607
Knee Deep

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:32 am


Lookin good!

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Feylin

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:36 am


Holy crap, Jen! I'm jealous. Seriously, I need more room to build stacked cages like you all have.

JensCritterDen
Guinea Pig Market

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:40 am


Thanks! I keep admiring them. I'm so happy with husband for doing that. He likes doing the cages, he says it's like having a huge erector set, lol.

The piggies sure seem to be loving all the room. They were in 2x6's before, but these 3x5's just seem like so much more room, the extra grid width really makes a difference.

cutemomomi
Obey My Authority

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:43 am


I just wrote to Absorbent Copr about the chemical-y smell and hope to hear something back.
I remember I used Ultra a *longgggggg* time ago, but I do not recall this almost betadine0like smell from before.

Anyways, thanks for all the answers Rshevin and Weaver.
I will have Ben pick up a bag for us when he gets off today, the fact that they come in 20lb bags made me pass to haul it home myself! :p

What a beautiful room and cage set up momof3boys.
And may I add what a cute little helper you have there! :)

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Feylin

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:31 pm


Some day, when I have my own house, I will have 3grid wide cages. I really think it helps with the stupid boy behavior.

Momo, you tell 'em ! :)

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JennG
In Memory of Mama

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:40 pm


Momof3, I LOVE your cages! Those are so awesome and your helper is a sweetie. You worked him/her into a deep sleep!

I use large kitty litter trays that you can get at Walmart. I use smaller kitty litter trays for the smaller cages.

RayFay

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:09 pm


hmmmm I'm thinking of making a cage like Momof3boys' for all my girls. Maybe if I make one BIG one they'll all get along...

Winnie the Pooh

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:29 pm


Wow! I've got a case of cage envy Momof3! I'll bet the pigs are in heaven!

I agree with Feylin, when I get my own home, the sky will be the limit when creating a new cage, or I guess the floor space will be the limit. :)

Momof3, apparently I will need to borrow your husband at that time. Does he want to go into building pig cages for a living? GL members could definitely keep him busy!

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:14 pm


Momof3, great cage! I am just curious (excuse me, I am a cage junkie :), but how does your cage support itself when the front grids are off and the bottom cage is open, when you have no connectors and the cage is three grids wide?!?? I am astonished and just keep staring trying to figure out how it works.

JensCritterDen
Guinea Pig Market

Post   » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:27 am


Thanks everybody! I'm sure he would love to be a professional cage builder!

Weaver: There are supports he made out of wood in various places to help support the second level, you can't see them at all in the picture, but he made braces in the corners and also pieces that come up from the floor that look like a "T". It is actually very sturdy.

Here is one that is a "T"

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In the back corner you can see one of the corner supports

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And there are 3 pieces of this running through the middle and through the sides

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:42 am


I am so facinated. I have always wanted to go three grids wide but could never get the structure sturdy enough and I had a hard time reaching the top level. I would love to see somemore pictures if you have the time, maybe a little closer.

I understand what you are saying about the wood. We used wood dowels in one of previous cages that supported three leavel and that worked real well. It looks like you cage is only two levels (like my current cage), but is just enclosed...right?

How does the bottom part open? Do the grids come off, or are they attached?

I had this setup for a short while...(bottom grids removable and I could slide the pan forward to clean it).
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To clean the bottom level of your cage do you actually have to get into the cage?

It is nice seeing someone else have a huge-o cage ;P

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