Another fleece convert-with questions!

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:43 am


I use white vinegar. Put in right in with my detergent. I use a half a cup. Wash it all on hot and I use the second cycle with the pig laundry to make sure it is really clean and all of the detergent is washed out.

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GuineaPinny

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:16 am


So since switching to fleece I realized we've got someone leaving white spots behind.

Are these definitely calcium deposits indicating one piggy is having a too rich calcium diet and we should isolate who is having it? Or see if it continues and maybe it was just one meal? Or is there a possibility of sludge?

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New Guinea Mom
There is No Cure

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:17 am


Okay. I completely forgot to pick up vinegar when I went shopping last. I went for that and some others things and came home without it and a bunch of things I didn't go for. I will wash today, and not use a fabric softener. Next time I'll use the vinegar.

I do have a spray bottle with water and vinegar to clean the coroplast after I remove everything before I put new bedding back in.

Thank you guys!

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Mum
I GAVE, dammit!

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:18 am


I don't worry about white spots. Typically I see them on the rare occasions I feed parsley and/or romaine.

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GuineaPinny

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:19 am


Thanks for the quick reply Mum. Good to know.

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rshevin

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:21 am


I see them regularly (nearly daily) with Piggy despite his long term stone diet. I have been assured it's not the end of the world.

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mmercedesmom
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Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:14 pm


Here is my attempt at tucking fleece the Weaver way!
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Checking out the new Cozy Pads before I put the other hideys back.
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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:20 pm


Looks good! Looks especially great with Wooly in the picture :)

I have to clean the herd's cage this afternoon. I will try to take pictures as I am going to give new people a better idea of the step by step process.

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Eenypup

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:31 pm


I must say I am in awe of WEAVER's cages. They are like little designer homes! I think they look more stylish than my bedroom!

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rshevin

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:19 pm


I get a tolerable tuck by laying the fleece on the floor, then layering towels and crib pads as desired, and folding the fleece around. I then roll it up tight to transfer to the cage where it's unrolled. The corners say pretty good this way, not perfect, but nice.

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Feylin

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:15 pm


Oh, how I wish I could tuck my fleece like that! Or even better, use cage pads- it would be great to change out the whole layer of fleece and absorbent material at the same time.

I just cleaned the 2x10. Lots of layers of fleece means lots of laundry if I'm not good about washing my smaller top layers through out the week.

I'm curious to know what detergent you all are using. I tried the Purex but the scented kind just was awful. I tried the Free and Clear kind but it doesn't work well at all, which was very odd consindering how much success others here have had with it. I think my water is just too hard. I'm back to Arm and Hammer powdered detergent with OxyClean in it. It's OK, but I'm still searching for something that I can buy in large volumes and that works well in my hard water.

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:41 pm


With the Purex, did you use bleach when you washed the towels?

I only use the Purex and add vinegar for beds and the fleece. I have to use the Purex, vinegar and bleach to wash the towels.

With the Puret you also have to make sure you are using the right amount of powder. It seems like a whole lot because it is not as concentrated as some of the other stuff out there.

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Feylin

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:47 pm


I had the concentrated liquid (couldn't find the powder). I filled the cap all the way up. No bleach, since I try to avoid it unless it's absoluetly necessary. I splashed in liberal amounts of vinegar and always used oxyclean.

Your suggestion of soaking in oxyclean really worked, btw, to get pee stains out of the cups and sacks. I guess I'm just lazy and want it to happen in the washer, while the washing is going on! :)

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:51 pm


I hate to use bleach too. I only use it in my pig towels and I can do two cages and that is one load of laundry. I do find that without the bleach my white towels are not white and they will have a smell to them if I do not add bleach. The urine over days of just sitting in the towels makes the towels in my opinion the dirtiest and the smellest.

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TexCavy

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:34 pm


I asked this once on another thread, but I forgot what one and don't think I saw if there were replies. What if you have a pig that chews at the fleece? One of mine was on a flannel cloth during cage clean once and she ate a huge chunk of it. It really scared me from being able to switch her to fleece. If she gets within reach of any cloth but our clothes she chews it and she is a barber too.

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TexCavy

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:38 pm


I asked this once on another thread, but I forgot what one and don't think I saw if there were replies. What if you have a pig that chews at the fleece? One of mine was on a flannel cloth during cage clean once and she ate a huge chunk of it. It really scared me from being able to switch her to fleece. If she gets within reach of any cloth but our clothes she chews it and she is a barber too.

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rshevin

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:42 pm


Feylin, did you ever grab a box of borax? That can help with hard water too, as can the various oxy powders. I like the stuff from Dollar Tree believe it or not. I've used both Purex F&C and the Naturals and both seem to work for me. Not sure why. We have fairly hard water here too.

TexCavy, very few pigs seem to chew the fleece. Cotton things yes but they seem to know not to chew the polyester. If a pig DID chew excessively, that would indicate an incompatibility between that pig and fleece. I've never heard anyone have this problem though. Hiding edges helps too. My pigs chew edges of things but not the floor fleece since it's folded under.

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TexCavy

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:49 pm


Crap, computer/internet problems I'm so sorry everyone and Lynx.

Thanks rshevin.

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:31 pm


I also have a few pigs that chew things. I have one that think she is a hairdresser (Allie Belle) and barbers nonstop. Natasha has a fetish with stuffed animals and will chew them to no end. I had to stop putting them in that cage in fear of her harming herself. I have a few that pull on their berber pads and than seem to lay down. It is almost like the fluffing their beds :) I have never had a pig though chew the fleece on the floor of the cage. I don't even have any that burrow *knocks on wood*. I do have a couple that burrow under pads, but never the fleece itself.

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WEAVER
one pig at a time.

Post   » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:37 pm


Ok, I think one of the main questions we have on GL is how to use fleece. Today, while cleaning my herd I took step by step pictures. There are nineteen pictures in all so please do not post before I finish the discriptions. Hopefully some of you interested in fleece or thinking of trying fleece will find this helpful.

There are many benefits to using fleece. Not only is it healthier for your pigs and for you and your family, it is also helps our landfills and environment. It is very cost efficient once you have the items needed. The towels last forever along with the fleece. I do recommend that you buy enough to have two changes for your cage so when you change out one and it is washing you can just put the other set in the cage and the pigs don't have to wait. I highly encourage those of you to have been thinking about using fleece to give it a try. I would never go back to traditional bedding.

To start off you want to wipe down your coroplast with vinegar and water 50/50. I have it in it's own spray bottle and just wipe down with paper towels.
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Once your coroplast is completely dry you want to line it with puppy pads or newspaper. I use newspaper to save on cost and the environment. This 2x5 takes about two whole newpapers to completely line.
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Once you have your newspaper down you want to than lay your towels. You want to lay your towels as flat as possible to later help keep your fleece smooth.
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In high spot pee areas I use extra towels to help absorb the urine. Larger sized hand towels work great for this and take up less space in the washer later when it comes time to wash their linens. I prefer to use all white towels to show if any of my pigs have blood in their urine, but any cotton towels will do the job.
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You want to line the entire cage in towels at least two layers thick, three in high pee areas. Once I complete that, it never fails, I always have a few of my inspectors stop by to make sure that I am doing their cage correctly :)
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