Hay Holders Unsafe and Alternatives

User avatar
DaCourt

Post   » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:53 pm


I think it woiuld be safer to just not use them. Just because they have not done it in the past, does not mean they will not do it in the furture.

JensCritterDen
Guinea Pig Market

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:51 am


I would not use them either. You always have to think about the "what ifs". I don't want to risk it.

User avatar
WindeSpirit
Sewing for a Cause

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:56 pm


Charzard03 - I'm really glad you read this before getting those things!

Rkog - it would be much safer to just take them out, period. DaCourt is right, you never know when/if that "one time" is going to come. I know if I were you, I'd rather put hay on the floor then some possible day wish I had. Not that much different from breeding and knowing the possible outcome that has.

LynnK - I'm glad you stopped using the balls as well. Piggies love to play in the paper bags anyhow, and they are easy to toss out and get a new one.

GPiggin - when I get a order in you can select fabrics, I know I'll be heading to the fabric store today to. I can also mix things up, like every other strip blue and yellow or how ever. Best to email about this though.

User avatar
WindeSpirit
Sewing for a Cause

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:57 pm


I thought of another idea, and this shouldn't be to hard for anyone to do. You'll need two things:
White card stock
Scissors

(you can use plain printer paper also but be sure to tear all edges so there will not be any paper cuts.)

Cut roughly a two inch strip off the sheet of card stock, does not matter from which side.

With the large piece make a slit about a inch away from the top in the center and two inches wide, do the same on bottom.

With the two inch strip you cut off, push it through both slits so the sides join together, you can do this an extra time. Now fold the extra so it semi secures it in place. It will loosed a little. Fill with hay and watch piggies play.

This is just a guide, master it how ever you wish :)

User avatar
Charzard03

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:17 pm


Thats a pretty good idea, one thing I do is get a sock and hang it somewhere resonably high (so the pigs can reach the bottom), fill it with hay and then cut the bottom off (push a little hay through) so the hay dangles down for them to eat. I only use this for when they are out in their outside run, but I guess it could work well in a cage aswell :3 Just putting a pile of hay in with the pigs works fine for me though x3

User avatar
rkog

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:31 pm


LOL - do you know my pigs? They live to be troublemakers. I ordered some of the soft hay racks. I guess they "waste" hay even with the wire racks, so I doubt they would waste any more this way & I won't have to worry about a sudden King Kong imitation from them.

JensCritterDen
Guinea Pig Market

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:10 pm


I ordered some and I, I mean my piggies can't wait!

With all of these trouble making boys I have, if there were something they could possibly get hurt on they would do it for sure.

User avatar
LynnK

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:03 pm


You know I have a whole box full of the hay manager's should I just throw them away or donate them some where or maybe throw them in with the recycleing?

User avatar
cabaya

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:25 pm


If they are the unsafe designs throw them away! (If possible recycling them is always great)

Do not donate them because then you could be putting other peoples pigs in danger.

User avatar
DaCourt

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:43 pm


I ordered a couple myselft. Can't wait.

User avatar
LynnK

Post   » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:36 pm


Thanks cabaya I won't donate them at all, I think I might know some one that recycle's scrap metal I wll see if he can take them if not I will just throw them away!

User avatar
Charzard03

Post   » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:35 pm


Im kinda bumping this thread, I have bad news.
Someone who's pigs I help care for bought one of these racks for their piggies unaware of the dangers, I came in today to find the hay rack in the cage and one of the young piggies with his leg stuck at the top. I think he had jumped on the top of it to eat the hay at the top and then tryed to jump down and gotten his leg caught. He was rushed to the vets straight away, luckly it was only a pulled muscle and not a dislocation or breakage, he's seems okay and is still eating like a pig and seems okay, I think the vets have prescribed pain meds for him aswell. It scared me so much though im still in complete shock and have been shaking for the last 2 hours. Please dont use these hay racks D:

A different company has released a safety version of the racks, they have a lockable lid so you can put the hay in and close the top and they also have bars along the sides to stop the pigs climbing in the sides. The bars on it are also alot closer together so there is no way a piggie could get in it like the others. They are alot safer. Or buy one of windespirits ones, they look fantastic and are safe :3

Is there any way this thread could become sticky? After seeing what I saw today I want these off the market.
Im going to talk to my local petshops manager about supplying the safety ones instead and I will tell him about whats happened and some previous accidents involving the racks. The lady who owns another petstore near me already knew about the dangers and only supplys the safety ones, thats where I got mine from.

Pimpinpuji

Post   » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:52 pm


I'm wondering if I could just do this with some fleece, by cutting a slit in the middle? I have way too much hay getting wasted, and I may not be going back home for some time.

Must conserve!

I think my boys like to throw hay on the floor just so the can pee and poop on it.

Do the hammocks help to minimize wastage?

User avatar
Calvin + Hobes

Post   » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:30 pm


I'm with you Pimpinpuji. My boys seem to think that wasting hay is an amusing hobby. Maybe you have to be a pig to fully understand but apparently there is nothing that beats taking a dump on expensive hay! lol

Earlier this week I made a hay rack by bending a grid in half, sort of into a V shape. Then I used some scraps of coroplast to make solid ends so that they couldn't climb up inside it. After reading this thread I think I'll use another scrap to make a lid for it as well.

Thanks for bringing the thread back up!

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:52 pm


I looked at the list of stickies and this forum has way too many! Maybe a safety sticky with links to the grids and this thread and unstick the grids sticky?

User avatar
Bytxlaura
Remembering Nemo

Post   » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:54 pm


A safety sticky sounds like an excellent idea :)

User avatar
TexCavy

Post   » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:55 pm


I agree.

User avatar
Lynx
RESIST

Post   » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:21 pm


I can't do it tonight. Maybe early next week you can remind me.

User avatar
WindeSpirit
Sewing for a Cause

Post   » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:40 am


Char03 - I'm sorry about that piggie but am glad to hear he's doing ok. I'm curious to see what this other version of hay rack looks like. Could you provide a link or picture for us?

Pimpin - the fleece cutting could work, but since fleece doesn't move as freely, it won't work as well. I certainly would not condone it in the aspects of any pigs getting on it though, fleece could wrap around a leg since it stretches, that is a hazard to avoid. Perhaps cutting only one hole would be wiser if you choose to try. Plus hay sticks to fleece more, the pigs might play 'tug of war' at times ;)

Yes, the Hay Hammocks have helped reduce waste as well as the Softy Hay Racks. You can read some of the comments of others in my sellers thread.

User avatar
Bytxlaura
Remembering Nemo

Post   » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:57 am


I took this picture because you can see how the hammock "moves" with the body of the piggie :) On the left side, Lucy stuck her head in and the stripes of the hammock just slid easily, allowing her to get to the hay that she wanted:


Image

Kit Kat is supervising, evidently :)

Post Reply
57 posts