Boars Behaving Badly II

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Sidera17

Post   » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:01 pm


Did Jasper normally do this to Nikka, or has it gotten worse since the bath? It's good that nobody's fighting and drawing blood. I think they might need to get used to each other again. Nikka is probably just annoyed. I mean, I would be. *lol*

Maybe you could try them in a divided cage? Either that, or try a floor time where they just let it all out. You know, poops on the floor, hay everywhere, the whole deal. If it gets too rough in my house, I take out the humped pig and give him extra cuddles.

GPT

Post   » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:26 pm


I seperated the boys for awhile after Pinky gave Toffee a bloody nose but Toffee was upset and managed to get back in with the rest of the boys. I haven't seen any serious fights since. I haven't seen any new cuts or scabs or anything. As you can tell, I am really reluctant to take them apart, because the only place I could put Toffee is somewhere where he wouldn't be able to see the other two boys and I wouldn't be able to get him a friend.

Anyone know how come they got so viscious with each other after they moved to a BIGGER cage? It has been two weeks.

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Sidera17

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:04 am


So, this is what happened last night:

3AM- The house is quiet.
Sidera: *wakes up from a bad dream* AHH!!
*Downstairs, the bell starts ringing*
Sidera: Spike.......... ZZzz.

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AldenM1
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Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:48 am


Aww. :)

This morning when I put two chunks of green pepper in the cage, Charlie wouldn't come upstairs (snacks are only served upstairs). He was sitting down there wheeking hopefully but not even really TRYING to come upstairs. Snickers, of course, had grabbed a chunk of pepper and positioned himself at the top of the ramp so Charlie would have to pass him to get up. I kept moving Snickers and he kept running back there.

Finally, Charlie made a determined face, ran up the ramp, leaped right OVER Snickers, grabbed his chunk of pepper, and flung himself into the upstairs litter box.

It was adorable, but now I'm kind of worried that Charlie's getting bullied again. I think Snickers threatens him with the stew pot when I'm not home!

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sammianne

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:54 am


GPT - A properly secured divider of grids (cubes) should not allow the pig to get back into the other part of the cage. That being said, if the boys are now getting along alright and no longer fighting, leave them alone and let them be pigs.

Was the bigger cage a brand new cage? Even if it was just the old cage expanded at least it was partially new. New cages+pairs/herds of pigs =figuring out who the boss of the new cage is all over again.

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clairey

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:22 am


Spring has sprung in the pigpen. Stephen has the desire to hump again, though nowhere near the urge he had when the teenage hormones were rife. He never actually achieves his goal. Alan has developed a comedic trot which involves attempting to kick Stephen in the face every few steps. They've gotten into high-octane face to face tooth-chattering wars a couple of times but sooner or later Stephen always backs down. It usually takes Alan lunging at him with intent before Stephen slinks away. How Alan, such a mellow pig, is the alpha I have no idea but I am very thankful. If Stephen and his boarly urges were in control it'd be a very different place in there.

GPT

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:58 am


I don't have a C&C cage, so I can't really seperate like that but ya they aren't fighting now.

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Amy0204
We miss our sweet Oreo

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:23 pm


I'm having spring fever issues, here, too. Carrot Cake and Hermes have lived together in "relative" peace for over a year and a half, and today, Carrot's been trying to hump Hermes for the past 3 hours non-stop. Poor guy can't come out of his pigloo without being ambushed. I have no idea what started it. There are absolutely no changes in their lives right now.

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Feylin

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:10 pm


GPT- what kind of cage do you have? Did you build one for your pigs?

You can weigh them each day at the same time and if you see steady weight loss in one pig you know that he is being bullied away from food and needs to live on his own.

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clairey

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:43 pm


Feylin, GPT's cage is here :

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1715919#1715919

and here:

http://www.guinealynx.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1718461#1718461

I do wonder if the particularly the depth of the cage is causing issues. It makes it very hard for the pigs to avoid each other when they all end up on the same level.

What are the actual measurements of each level, GPT?

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Kat

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:36 pm


*Sigh* I came home last night to find Mr. Fuzzbucket standing in a corner of the cage, looking scared to death. After awhile, Bumby started chasing him (the chasing has been going on since I introduced them) and then gave him a big bite, ripping out a bunch of fur. I picked Mr. Fuzzbucket up, and found he had wounds all over him. Mostly on his left side and his behind, which I think all happened yesterday, but I can't be completely sure. My poor baby Fuzzbucket!

I separated them by putting a divider in their cage. So, they can still see each other and talk to each other. I don't want to try putting them back together until Mr. Fuzzbucket's wounds heal. I used a weak salt solution last night to clean them, and will get some betadine today. Mr. Fuzzbucket is such a sweet pig, I feel so sorry for him.

Their cage always had 2-3 of everything, plenty of space and always 2-3 hideys with multiple entrances and exits. It may be that I just need to let their teenage hormones calm down.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:39 pm


:-(

Poor Mr. Fuzzbucket! I always feel bad for the picked on pigs.

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WildRye

Post   » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:43 pm


Does anybody know if (adolescent) boars go through waves of hormones? My boys will live in relative peace for a few days, then have a couple days where they bicker incessantly. And repeat. It's all very normal boarly behavior, and no one's ever been injured beyond a few nose scratches. Probably just a puberty thing, right? They're about 10 months old. How long can I expect these 'mood swings' to last?

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Mapleowl18
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Post   » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:03 am


Until they're about a year and a quarter to a year a half.

Then they seem to settle down in my experience.

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Sidera17

Post   » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:38 am


Poor little Fuzzbucket. I hate it when they get bullied. :( I want to give him cuddles.

The battle for supremacy of the kitchen continues between Chex and my mom. Yesterday, Chex left what can only be described as as foot-long pee puddle. Big Mamma was not pleased. XD

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clairey

Post   » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:55 am


WildRye - going by my boys, yes the hormones come in waves. As time went on the peaceful gaps between outbursts became longer and longer. My boys are almost 18 months old now and apart from a little burst of spring fever they are as settled and calm as I could ever want them to be. *knocks on wood*

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Mapleowl18
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Post   » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:05 am


Guess what my boy piggies did this morning.

They decided that they really like their Weaver cuddle cups under their step stools. They like them so much they want to sit and poo and pee in them.

Now I don't think this is usually a problem but these where new Weaver cups and the step stools are kinda short, so piggies feel very secure in them. (For example Guinea Pig Fun uses higher ones.) So its been fine all week, then when I get them out this morning, both have yellow bottom, bum fur. Both!

I got Robin out and put him on my white shirt I was going to be wearing to work. Then when I move him to my lap and its like what the heck is on my shirt. Its yellow. Pick Robin up his lower bottom belly is stained yellow. So I thought it was just Robin, who is my cuddlepig and all around homebody. Then I pick up Linus the Indie 500 pig. Same thing. So I look at the cuddle cups, notice huge pee stains in the bottom.

So I took the cuddle cups out. I'm going to clean their cage tommarrow. Linus was giving me looks of what happened to my bed, but then he went head first into in hay hammock. I think this was from how I had the cage set up and the fact that I hadn't washed the weaver cuddle cups at all yet. I think the step stools will only be sans cuddle cups for floor time.

GPT

Post   » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:13 pm


I can't remember the exact measurements but I do agree with you because sometimes bumping into each other sparks off a fight and most of the time they are too lazy to move from the bottom level cause that is where the food is lol!

It's too late now though :( If I could make the cage again I'd make the depth a bit bigger and maybe a little in the length

Cinnabuns Legacy

Post   » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:16 pm


Are cavies affected "amorously" by spring? James has been humping Alistair like crazy since spring hit and Alistair gets all rumbly with him, naturally. They can't seem to decide right now whether they ador or hate each other; half the time they're humping rumbling or backing each other into a corner threateningly and the other half they're sharing a pellet dish or sleeping nex to each other. Though lately they've taken to sleeping at opposite ends of the cage even.

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jaybeebrad

Post   » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:59 pm


Mapleowl - I gave up keeping my pigs out of their poo LONG ago. They're so selective too. One side of the cage is where most of their poop goes, but certain poops they like to drop right under their pigloo for sleeping on. Fortunately my long-hair is VERY finicky and snotty, so there's very rarely any matting. Granted I keep him shorn - I call it his k.d. lang cut - but still, any kind of a mess and he throws a tantrum!

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