So I'm still looking for the safer pellets to give for our pigs. The candidates that comes to my mind are Brown's Nutrition Plus Supreme pellets (this is the link to the thread : http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/diet-nutrition/63957-bro ... rodents.html) and Brown's Encore (here's the ingredients : http://www.ebay.in/itm/F-M-Browns-Encore-Guinea-Pig-Food-5-Pound-/150640218803#ht_1922wt_754) because both of them are sold online so everybody can get it.
I've done few research about the ingredients, and what bothers me are Whey Solids and Cholecalciferol. I read Nutrient Requirements of Laboratory Animals and Cholecalciferol is one ingredients that listed there (page 104), but from what I read in the net, cholecalciferol made from animals. And about whey solids, i can't find any information on its effect on guinea pigs.
But, both of those ingredients are also listed in Mazuri's ingredients. And Mazuri is one acceptable pellets, so it makes me a bit sure that maybe both of them are okay.
And there's an old thread (year 2006) in GPC about Brown's Encore : http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/diet-nutrition/63957-bro ... rodents.html. I'm not sure why the ingredients on this thread and on the pages that I found on the net are differents, but maybe there are some changes of the ingredients during 2006-2012.
However, I can't be sure which pellets to suggest to the others to use unless I know it's safer, by asking GPC and GL. That's why I came to you and ask your opinion about which one to use. Should we stick with Nova pellet? Or is there any better pellets other than Oxbow? Or should we just change our guinea pig diet to hay and veggies based only?
The ingredients of Nova (the new product) and CP Diet are listed here :
And these are the ingredients of the products that I found here and I asked to Ly just in case there's another better product than the one that I use :
- Gold Blend Pellet (not available in every area) : http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/diet-nutrition/61474-gold-blend-pellet.html
- Premium Pellet for Guinea Pig and Rabbit (not available in every area):http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/diet-nutrition/50941-premium-pellet-guinea-pig-rabbit.html
- Vitakraft Emotion Beauty (which is not available in Indonesia, but I can ask the Vitakraft distributor): http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/diet-nutrition/52250-vit ... gs-good.html
Should we go pelletless instead?
My friend tried it before but she didn't successful, her piggy's weight decrease 20grams in several days. I really want to try it, but I'm afraid it would ended up bad. And I would love to add more and more veggies but I know that some veggies are bad when given in medium-large amount. And I'm afraid that doubled or tripled their veggies menu would just harm them.
- Contributor in 2018
So far so good. The young ones are still growing, the old one has lost some weight, but seems to be holding steady now.
Most of the threads are pretty old, and some of the info isn't really conclusive (like people say they are going to try it, but don't say how it worked out.) I'd love to just get this thread going again with anyone on here who is currently pellet free, or who TRIED pellet free, and has feedback for me.
At this time, I'm feeding on-demand unlimited, high-quality timothy hay, quite a bit of veggies each day, leafy greens, and also fresh, organic grass, dandelion and clover in season, or as I can gather it in cold months. But I recently lost one of my two piggies, so I'm just re-evaluating all of our program here, including diet, even though my remaining fella is a good weight, and isn't losing.
- And got the T-shirt
I did pellet-free for about three years, and got a recurrence of a bladder stone for my efforts.
If you want more info on individual foods you are giving, there is a chart that might help (nice to see you are mainly going greens vs. fruits).
"On-demand unlimited, high-quality timothy hay, quite a bit of veggies each day, leafy greens, and also fresh, organic grass, dandelion and clover in season, or as I can gather it in cold months."
My update is that after several moths of trying, this was a FAILURE. All of my piggies lost weight, when I stopped feeding pellets. Even with unlimited, high-quality hay and lots of veggies/greens, all the piggies dropped at least a few grams, if not more, and I ended up adding the pellets back into their diet. After doing so, all the piggies regained the weight they had lots. However, during my experiment (as I mentioned above) I did lose one of my male piggies, and to this day, I wonder if it's because of the diet change. I'll never know, of course, but after an extensive trial, and lots of other good food options, I consider the experiment a failure.